1796 Liberty Cap

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I was pleased to get this mutilated coin which I know many wouldn't want in their collection.

    Would you be pleased?
     

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  3. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    That coin has seen better days, but I wouldn't kick it out of my safe. Still has some really nice detail where it hasn't been chewed up.
    Guy~
     
  4. LewR

    LewR Junior Member

    Having a US coin - 214 years old - can sure be a sense of pride in ANYONE's collection. Quality is what we can afford or obtain - but a simple answer - YES, I would be proud!!
     
  5. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

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  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Are you able to to pull up the full size picture by clicking the thumbnail? I'm still learning the nuances of posting pictures.
     
  7. majorbigtime

    majorbigtime New Member

    A great coin if you are building a hi-end junk box!
     
  8. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    i think that is a great piece. probably the worst in general is counterstamps.
     
  9. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    Nice coin. Having a 1796 in ANY condition would be good enough for me. :)
     
  10. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Are you kidding, thats a great piece. I am still kicking myself over turning down a holed 1794 cent last year because I thought it was $10 too expensive....aaaaaugh! Seriously though, early large cents are stupid hard to come by in any shape.
     
  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Now for some fun. What variety and grade would you give it? I know what I think. How about some second opinions?
     
  12. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Another 1796 iberty Cap

    This is another 1796 Liberty Cap I obtained recently. It's not mutilated, but has plenty of honest wear.
     

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  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    That is a crying shame! Still to find a 1796 with that much detail damaged or not is a feat in itself.
     
  15. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    I would call that coin nearly VF on the obv and F on the rev so maybe an overall F-12 for the entire coin, too bad you cant get that damage repaired.
     
  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I might even go VF details damaged net F, but still(as mentioned) I would not kick it out of my collection. Both of them are nice additions - have you attributed them?
     
  17. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Both coins, the S-86 and S-85 are good coins, and I would take definitely them into my collection. (The S-86 was easy to attribute, but the S-85 was a difficult one).

    Both are R-5 coins, and therefore more desirable, and that would be an additional reason why I personally would forego condition for the sakes of rarity.

    Good going Marshall!

    Eduard
     
  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Thank you. Both were Ebay pickups in the last month which I got in yesterday. I think the identification of the S-85 was made easier when I discovered the third outside leaf on the left ends under the center of the S. This is true on none of the other Liberty Cap Reverses of 1796. It's odd that such a distinctive diagnostic wasn't included in the literature I've seen.

    Only Reverse K, Y and Z show this diagnostic on the Draped busts of 1796.
     
  19. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm thinking someone recently tried a home repair which accounts for the new copper color on the highest points of the damaged area. Fortunately they gave up before adding more to the damage.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    S-86 on the first coin I could get, but the S-85 which has the same obverse as S-84 I could not get. I could not see enough of the reverse to check it against the book. Oh well - still both are nice.
     
  21. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I took new photos today, but the key feature still gets lost in the wash. I will concentrate on the leaf under the S tomorrow.
     
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