1794 Talbot, Allum & Lee Colonial New York Cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ryanbrooks, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Heya Everyone!

    Just wanted to share my 1794 Talbot, Allum & Lee piece that came in today. Previously graded by PCGS as XF-40, and is the "Far N" variety known to be an R-5/6.

    Let me know what ya'll think! :)

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    Ryan
     
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  3. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Wow, Ryan, I think you have a very nice piece there. Very impressive!
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I think I want one in Mint State. Nice freakin coin man!
     
  5. majorbigtime

    majorbigtime New Member


    Why would anyone crack it out--it certainly wasn't undergraded!

    Nice coin anyway.
     
  6. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Very nice. :thumb: I like it. :bow:
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    good question.

    But, many copper collectors want to 'feel the coin'.

    Myself? I prefer the guarantee of the TPG'ers.

    Nice coin.
     
  8. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Very nice coin ryan. Great piece of numismatic history!
     
  9. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    Great looking, well-preserved coin -- really like the design.:thumb: Can you explain how you can tell it is a "Far N" variety? It is not readily apparent.
     
  10. Fletcher

    Fletcher Junior Member

    He wants to brush it with his little C4 copper brush :)
     
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  12. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Thanks guys for all your comments!

    The seller unfortunately cracked it out 4 or 5 years a go, and threw the slabs away, but kept the info. It was number 634.40/2643301 and was in an OGH. He cut out the little bar code and number thingy and taped it onto it's holder. So at least I still have a part of it left!

    I am really happy I had the opportunity to get this, since not only they are hard to get, but it's so beautiful!
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Terrific coin, Ryan! I'm assuming that 's light striking on the Liberty figure, but lots of nice detail on the ship. The large die crack is very interesting.
     
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  16. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Hi Ryan -

    Just came across your post.

    I have a very similar looking specimen, except that it's not as nice of a grade: http://www.cointalk.com/t98665/

    I've been pulling my hair out trying to attribute my variety, and thanks to your posting, I believe I've figured it out :). I erroneously attributed my specimen as a Fuld-4, however, I believe both of ours is actually a Fuld-3. I was able to find the same variety with the same weird lighter tan blemishes at a previous Heritage auction. All three specimens have the "Far N":
    "Important 1794 Fuld-3 Talbot, Allum, & Lee Cent
    Auction: 2005 September Long Beach Signature Auction #384

    Lot 402 1794 1C Talbot, Allum & Lee Cent, NEW YORK XF45 PCGS.
    Fuld-3. This is the rare variety with NEW shifted left, the E centered below the left base of A in ALLUM. This appears to have the usual lettered edge rather than a plain edge, although the determination is rendered difficult by the slab. Dark brown surfaces are blemished by a few spots of lighter tan, as well as minor abrasions and tiny scratches. Listed on page 72 of the 2006 Guide Book."
    From The Oak Collection of American Colonial Coinage.(#634)
    "
    Does your edge have the following lettering "PAYABLE AT THE STORE OF -: -: -: ?" If so, I believe diagnostics for your specimen are the following:

    • Specimen is a Fuld-3 / Breen-1032 / W-8580
    • Rarity: URS-5 (approx 9-16 known specimens exist)
    Regards,

    CheetahCats
     
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