1794 Hlaf Cent - ground corrosion - thoughts grade/value?

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  1. willymac

    willymac Member

    Here is another one.

    Thanks again for the feedback on the 1798 large cent as well.!
     

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    C-2, take a look at the edge lettering specifically the word HUNDRED. Are the letters spaced wide apart? Wide enough that you could fit another H in between them, especially the RE where you could almost fit two H's in there? If you can then it is C-2a an R-3 coin. If on the other hand the letters are close and you can't fit another H in between them then it is C-2b an R-6+ coin and a major rarity.
     
  4. willymac

    willymac Member

    not all the letters are wide, but hundred has some extra room...others are close TWO, Dollar, etc..do you have any links to pictures?
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Small edge letters Note the small letters, the narrow H and how you could fit that H inbetween the other letters. Note the wide gap between the RE.
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    Large edge letters Letters are larger, the H is wider and if you tried to fit it in between the other letters it would overlap them. (This edge was blundered so you can't see the space between the RE.)
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    Hope this helps.
     
  6. willymac

    willymac Member

    So if I said it was between the two what would you say? The distance between the end of Dollar and TWO is way larger than the distance on the top one, but not as far as the one on the bottom
     
  7. willymac

    willymac Member

    definatly a gap between R & E - which one is that?
     
  8. willymac

    willymac Member

    more pics

    i tried my best to get pics of the edge - the point is that the entire phrase is on the side - no overwriting and extra space at the end... So it is not overwritten like the small with wide spaces, but it is not bunched up like the large...
     

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  9. willymac

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  10. willymac

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    Anyone have anymore thoughts here? Any guess on net condition or value?

    Thanks a TON!!!
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks like small letters, C-2a, the more common one. RATS
     
  12. willymac

    willymac Member

    Oh well...what is the value on that version? I truly appreciate your help.
     
  13. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I am not too familiar with values, but I would put this in the couple hundred range, maybe $300 or so. It's got great detail but heavy corrosion, I would grade it 20 net 6. For early copper the condition is a huge factor in price.
     
  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I concur with the small letters. Too much room between H and U. I wish it weren't so. I'd love to find another great rarity through CT.
     
  15. willymac

    willymac Member

    Any different endges that the large and small?

    Or does the orientation have anything to do with it?

    On the small at the top they are so far apart that they overlap.

    On the large the FOR is over the HUNDRED and there is a large space after DOLLAR and TWO.

    Mine has the large space after DOLLAR and TWO...weird...

    Thanks for the feedback
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The lettering was applied by two edge dies, one said TWO HUNDRED and the other said FOR A DOLLAR. The distances between the letters on each edge die was unchanging, but the distances between the words HUNDRED and FOR, or DOLLAR and TWO and sometime those distances dropped to less than zero and the edge inscriptions over lapped. As in the Large letter edge I posted above. Look at the word HUNDRED, it actually says HUNDRR. that second R is the R from FOR. The small edge letter is blundered as well. In this case they started the lettering, realized the dies weren't set right and started over. Look at the word DOLLAR. It is overlapping the word HUNDRED and it reads DOLLHAURND with the LH AU RN over lapped and only the upright of the D visible.
     
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