1792 Silver Getz Washington President Coin...questions...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by KandaceIvey, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    Ok, so I found a 1792 coin in a recently purchased home in a bag with some older coins and foreign coins. Upon looking for more information on this coin, I found that it is a 1792 silver Getz Washington President coin. I found some info on the history and all on this site:

    http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/WashGETZ.intro.html

    I have found more information on several other sites as well, but this one was a bit more in depth. From my understanding some of these were made in silver and some in copper and each of those were made with some plain edge and some ridged. Now on to my point. I'm not sure if this coin is the real deal. And I'm also concerned it has been cleaned. I am completely new to this old coin stuff...please could someone offer me any information on this coin and old coins in general. I'm trying to figure value on it as well. From my understanding there were only 30-40 silver ones made for the 26 senators, and about 100 to 150 copper samples were struck to be distributed to the 66 congressmen. So, it would be a rare coin. Here are the samples of a coin I saw online in copper followed by my silver coins. Mine isn't sharp at all in detail and the coin itself is very shiny and clean looking. It has surface scratches it appears. Idk if that is due to the coin being 224 years old or cleaning. (Sorry pics are great...will try again if I need to.)
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    Last edited: Oct 18, 2016
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  3. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    The obverse is not the same at all. Yours says "G.WASHINGTON PRESIDENT.I." (or something like that), the original says "WASHINGTON PRESIDENT". The shape and proportion of the bust is completely different, as are letter spacings and positions.

    The reverse looks a lot closer to the original, but still some differences in relative positioning of the devices, for example the star above the eagle's head in yours is way too far to the left.

    I'm not familiar with this medal, but yours is clearly not an original. Sorry.
     
  4. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    That was my error. I had several saved during my search for the coin. I didn't even notice at the time that I posted 2 different coins hence the difference in colors! LOL sorry about that...my uploader was acting up because my picture sizes were too big and i had a lot of issues! Here is the one:

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  5. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    I'm gonna edit to insert the correct one
     
  6. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Looks a lot more like it. Could you take a picture of yours exactly head on with better lighting and focus?
     
  7. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    I will definitely try...hang on just a second...
     
  8. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    20161018_160638.jpg 20161018_160804.jpg Is that any better at all? I'm in natural light outside right now.
     
  9. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    Taking the pics with my cell so it's hard to get it perfect...
     
  10. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

  11. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Well it certainly looks heavily buffed/polished, which seriously devalues any numismatic item. But I can't help on authenticity. The link you posted gives the weights, so weighing it might be a place to start.
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2016
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  13. KandaceIvey

    KandaceIvey New Member

    Ok that's a great idea! Thanks!
     
  14. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I agree weight is a good place to check next. Also thickness.

    It looks reasonable enough to not dismiss outright based on the obverse and reverse, however, as longshot pointed out, it's been so heavily buffed that it's very difficult to verify. Counterfeiters often buff or wear pieces deliberately to soften out the devices and make it harder to see imperfections.
     
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