1722 Spanish/mexican coin

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  1. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    hello do any of you guys know what the value for this 1722 coin is? photo.jpg photo.jpg
     
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  3. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    That is a 1722 Spanish 2 Real coin. Don't know the value though.
     
  4. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    thanks for the help I purchased this from a local coin store some years back for around 50 dollars i believe. I was just curious as to see if it had grown in value a little
     
  5. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    It is probably worth even more than that.
     
  6. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Umm in 1722, charles iiii wasnt even born yet, plus they didnt use busts on those coins in 1722, it was pillars.
     
  7. DCH

    DCH Member

    Spanish 2 Real Lima Mint. If authentic, the date can't be 1722, it's either 1792 or 1799.(Charles IV 1788-1808)
    Krause lists both dates at $17.50 VG, $35 F, $50 VF.
     
  8. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    I just did the search and you guys are right theres no way for this coin to be dated 1722. Probably just a copy. I stiill cant believe my local coin ealer sold me this...
     
  9. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Several of my local coin dealers have no idea what they are selling when it comes to pre-Federal U.S. coinage, so your experience doesn't surprise me. I'm sorry to hear that you dropped $50 on that specimen.
     
  10. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    oh well this is a good experience for me to stop purchasing coins so hastily and to analyze what I am buying. At least this coin has about .2 oz of silver in it though so its not a complete loss.
     
  11. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    Are you sure that it's really silver? It's counterfeit, remember.
     
  12. lilbugsd

    lilbugsd Member

    As someone who is brand new to the world of coin collecting, this sort of stuff freaks me out. How do you know you're getting what you're supposed to be getting? Seems like someone has to do a ton of research before they buy anything.
     
  13. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    No, I am certain the coin is silver. Firstly because I checked my collection again in depth and I appeared to have a coin very similar to this one with Charles IV dated 1799. I remember purchasing that from my dealer for ten dollars. Anyway the material from that one to this one looks identical. Finally just to make sure I used some of my silver test acid to test for silver and i got a A light, creamy color result which signals that the coin is somewhere from .7 to .999 silver
     
  14. fred13

    fred13 Junior Member

    @lilbugsd
    I would not worry so much. I have been buying many coins over the years from my coin dealer and I am very familiar with him. He would never sell me anything counterfit on purpose. This probably just slipped his mind. However it is always best to do some research beforehand.
     
  15. rick2

    rick2 New Member

    guys
    its an original 2 real coin
    my guess it s that the date is 1792 and there is some dirt around the 9 that makes it look like a 2
    unfortunately you can t discriminate between 1792 and 1799 using the bust type or the assayer initials which is the same in both years

    it s a common coin and to be honest with you i think its worth 10-20$ , the condition is OK but not spectacular

    regards
     
  16. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    What's with the straight lines at the bottom of the so-called "9"s then? I still think it's fake.
     
  17. rick2

    rick2 New Member

    the coin is genuine , the straight line at the bottom could be some damage on the die or just the reflection of the light throug the plastic capsule.
     
  18. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    The serifs that I am talking about are under BOTH "9"s, and only under the nines, indicating that they are twos and not genuine.
     
  19. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    Who else thinks it's real? I still think it's fake.
     
  20. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    After re-examination, I concur with Rick on this. It is indeed a 1792. See attached image below, and pay particular attention to the tail on the "9".


    1792-2-Reale-Adjusted.jpg
     
  21. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    If its 1792 then its most likely real.
     
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