1652 pine tree shilling

A friend brought me the 1652 pine tree shilling and I know absolutely nothing about them other than there are a lot of counterfeits out there.
I've weighed it and it is 4.8 grams.
The planchette is very thin.
Is anybody out here knowledgeable about these?

 

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Some, now that I've read up a little. Here is the best link that I have. Being from New England, this has always been my holy grail of coins to own!
Good Luck, need help more? Just ask...
Pine Tree Coinage Introduction (nd.edu)

 

It has all the looks of a cast replica, plus it is a little heavy which would be very unusual for one of these. The mint was trying to profit on these and they were VERY careful about how much silver they were using!

 

Looks like a cast replica to me as well, especially with that raised lip around the rims. These were not struck in a collar. Check the edge for a seam.

 

I would say that this piece is replica. It has casing bubbles and some of the features are indistinct in places where they should be strong. I believe that it is a copy that is close to die variety Noe-1. Here is an example of the real thing.

 

These coins were not struck in a collar. They had an irregular shape and were struck on a rocker press. That’s why they are bent. The rocker press took less pressure to make the coins.

The small planchette Pine Tree shillings were struck on a screw press. They were flat unless they were bent outside the mint.

 

Here are pictures of a rocker press and a set of dies which I found on the Internet.

 

Very interesting to say the least.
I was able to find a Picture of some "CoinTalk" employees hard at work making coins. I'm the one in the pit with the fancy attire.

 

If you have been working at the profession for very long, you are probably missing the ends of a few fingers. Ouch!

 

John, that is a fine example. Very well struck. Thanks for posting.

 

It's nice, but the color has been "helped." The Noe-1 large planchet Pine Tree shilling is the poster child for the series. It was well struck and the dies provided an attractive example of the design.

This Pine Tree six pence is my best preserved piece of Massachusetts silver. All of the examples of this variety that I have seen were struck off-center.



And here a three pence to the complete the denomination set. The smaller coins are scarcer than the shillings, but they are not as popular. As a result all three denominations bring about the same price ... or at least they used to.

 

Tell me this. What's more desirable? A Pine Tree Shilling or an Oak Tree shilling?

 

The Oak Tree Shilling is rarer, but it all depends upon the grade. I paid about this same for this Oak Tree piece as I did for the Pine Tree shilling, but it's not as nice.



The Willow Tree and NE coinage is where the (financial) rubber meets the road. The Willow Tree coins are rarer and more expensive than the NE shilling. Both are beyond my pay grade.

 

Huh? You get paid?

 

I hope ITS REAL. fingers crossed

 

Yea, now and then.

 

That’s no help

 

Great answer. Makes sense

 

Can I guess. I pick pine tree

 

I looked in red book. I see 1667-1674 look alike shilling but says 1652 on coin. Maybe John Milton has the facts