I don't have a picture of this yet so we'll just has to go based on description....sorry! It is from 1648 and has a ship on the front. The back has a picture of *who I am assuming as* Loius XIV Around the left side of the face it says LVD.XIIII.D.G. and then on the right side of the face it says FR.ET.NAV.REX and then 1648 at the bottom. All I can find about these coins (or simillar ones) is that it is french and it's Louis XIV on the back. i can't find this exact coin with the ship on it tho. If anyone knows anything about coins or where to find info about old coins please let me know Thanks in advance -Mandi
I know of no coin struck by Louis XIV that ever had a ship on it. This is either a modern reproduction of some sort, a medal or possibly a jeton. But it is not a coin - of that I am certain.
Mandi - Thought I'd give you an update. It appears I was correct about the example you mentioned being a jetton. There is an interesting aspect though - it was produced for use in the New World. While I have yet to run across an example struck by Louis XIV - I was able to find one struck by Louis XV. Does yours look like this perhaps ? Louis XV jetton
There are numerous jetons with ships on them, ranging from the Municipal Council of Paris (which has a sailing ship as part of its coat of arms) various `Corps des Marchands de Paris' (Merchant Guilds) and the their Provosts (mayor equivalent) through to Chabers of Commerce such as the one in your image (La Rochelle.) and places like Le Havre, bayonne, Amiens....etc.etc.etc. I provide a few examples below. The one you show wasn't produced for the `new world' although there is one similar that was. It has a ship sailing left, and the legend is `Spem Auget Opes Que Parat. The obverse however has a crowned oval shield bearing a conical mountain before which is a river god. The shield is supported by indian princesses holding bows. legend is `Compagnie des Indes' ( issued by the (french) Company of The East and West Indies). The mountain is allusive to Mont Real, where the Compagnie des Indes had its central house, which out of interest still stands in Jacques cartier square. The river god is supposed to be the St Lawrence. Interestingly, the original poster did not mention the metal type the jeton was made from......(?) but for 1648 I suspect that it is probably either a Priemier Corps des Marchands or Prevot des Marchands type.
Howdy Ian - Your knowledge about jettons exceeds mine 100 fold - so thanks for the correction. Until I found that particular web site - I didn't know they existed at all. And of course all I could do was base my reply on the info provided. I finally did manage to find several of the Gadoury books though - they are on the way. So soon I'll be able to look some of this stuff up myself the easy way
Books on jetons are much much scarcer than `jetons'. Gadoury has (AFAIK) issued two hardback pocket size catalogues of jetons he was selling. I have the one dated 1986. It provided a very valuable insight to the scope of this collecting field. However, what it portays is the tip of the iceberg. The `mummy' of books on jetons is Feuardent. Written in French, original vols are hard to find and you'll struggle to find a reprint on the secondary market too. Last time I looked they were available (new) from cgb.fr for around €120. Finally, Michael Mitchiner wrote three vols. on jetons. Each vol costs $120 and in consequence i've not got them (yet). There are `specialist' books on jetons too., for example Raymond Gailhouste's `Numismatique de L'Assurance' which covers jetons issued by the various insurance companies in France throughout the ages. The old maritime insurance companies arehighly sought after. Here's a couple of examples of later (19th centuiry) types issued by `compagnies d'assurances' Ian
GDJMSP Thank you for the info. The 'coin' I have is very plain. The back looks almost identical to, (picture to follow later) But the front has a very plain ship on the front. No water no nothing, just a ship. I will try to get a picture of my coin soon tho. Thanks again for the help!
I have exactly the same coin(the first one)(fr.et.nav.rex 1648 lvd XIIII.d.g(....im happy to know a little more about it. i would be happy if you could tell me where you learned all this about the coin
Howdy jjjjjP - Welcome to the Forum !! Since I an usually only stops by on weekends I'll see if I can help answer your question. You learn all of this stuff from books - usually very specialized books. Ian mentioned the titles of several in his posts. You also learn by talking and sharing knowledge with other collectors - just like you are here
Does it have a ship on the reverse like the original posters? If so, whatever else it may be, it most certainly isn't a coin. This has already been covered in this thread though. If you are interested in finding out what it is you have, then perhaps you would be so kind as to post an image of the item so that we can better determine that for you. Ian `mid-weekend'
Hey I'm new here, i was researching a coin and... Mandi, Searching my coin coin online I came upon this chat room all about coins. The first thing I noticed was that the coin you describe is the same one that I have. Weirdly enough I've searched it online just to find out nothing about it. If by any chance you run into any information about it please tell me. As for Ian, none of the pictures you showed resemble anything to my coin thing-a-ma-jig. LOL. If anyone in this room is familiar with a coin with a ship on one side and a head on the other, with the inscriptions LVD XIIII D.G FR ET NAV REX 1648. please inform me of anything whatesoever about it, thanks alot 'cause i'm dying of curiosity. *Missy-Melanie*
Welcome aboard,Missy-Melanie.Your piece is not a coin,but a jeton,which has already been described as above. Aidan.
My son found a coin like you describe. He lives in Quebec city. He sent me pictures of it. I was doing a search on it and discovered this forum. How neat! He found examples of this coin's head but not the ship. Thank you for the information, I will tell him to stop by. He has several very old coins.
Louis XV Jeton Bought this brass jeton on Ebay for $1.50 which I've attached 2 pics of this coin. Claimed to be a 1700s Colonial jeton. Has a ship on the back. The coin is very thin like almost like a hammered coin. The front has a picture of a man in what looks like 18th century military attire. The inscription from what I can make out reads as follows... Obverse: LVD X V DG FR ET REX Reverse: DVR CH GL I can't make out the rest of the reverse inscription but it looks like...VK VKVKT (and at the bottom...RF 1AD PF) Any Ideas?
I have the same coin i would like to know how much its worth and how can i sell it . If it is nessery i will send you a photo . thank you
It is not a coin; it is a jeton. It has no value to speak of. If you tried to sell it you might get a couple dollars for it but that is all.
