"11 cent" double denomination error-amazing!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by dreamer94, Aug 1, 2007.

  1. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I stumbled across this on eBay.

    2633: 1999 Cent--Double Denomination on Struck

    It's a Roosevelt dime overstruck on both sides with a Lincoln cent.
    I thought people would enjoy seeing it.

    Any thoughts about how an error like this might occur?
    A mint employee "accidentally" drops a dime into the bin of cent planchets?

    The listing refers to it as "ever popular". Has anyone seen one before?
     
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  3. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    It could also happen like this. The mint uses the same bins for all denominations. If there was a dime left over in a fold in the cloth bin then the cent planchets go in and the rest is history.
     
  4. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Can't really say how it happened but it's cool.

    Off subject a bit but did you notice that heritage's feedback is only 98.7? That's as puzzling as the error as they only sell quality stuff from what I've seen and darn near all of slabbed by reputable TPGs.

    I see "garbage" sellers with better feedback.

    Oh well, just thinking out loud. Thanks for sharing the error with us.

    clembo
     
  5. briansol

    briansol New Member

    i've seen a couple of those in my day... wrong plachet, wrong stamp, or whatever. somehow they get out. Neat stuff :)
     
  6. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I think they mean that a penny struck on a dime planchet is a popular and sought after error.
     
  7. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I think I know the reason. A lot of Heritage auctions are live auctions. The eBay bids are "pre-bids"; the auction is closed to internet bidding before the live auction, so people may think they have won an auction and then get outbid during the live auction. People who haven't paid attention to the details of the listing might think they are getting cheated. They also warn bidders that during their busy auctions, their software may not be able to keep up with a large volume of bidding.

    I've only bought two things from Heritage; one was an internet-only auction; the other was a "buy now" sale of something left over from a regular auction. I was very happy both times.
     
  8. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    interesting error at the least
     
  9. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    wow, i can't believe heritage has negative feedback.....
     
  10. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Nor can I but I believe dreamer94 has probably nailed it.

    Just shows how carefully ebayers read an auction before they bid.

    SAD but true.
     
  11. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Dreamer,

    These are highly sought after errors and one of which, I would love to own! Just think what it would be worth, if the 1999-P Cent overstrike was done with a Proof (Close AM) Reverse!:rolling:


    Frank
     
  12. Brad1975

    Brad1975 Member

    That reverse die looks like a Wide AM ! check out the location of the initials. Like I say on my website: A Close AM has wide initials, and a Wide AM has close initials. The wide AM is the rare proof style reverse.

    Speaking of 1999 wide/close AM's and die errors. Check out this coin I bought at a coin show. It was sold to me as a "Struck thru" error for $50. I had ANACS certify it as a MS 65 "Wide AM with Stuck thru late die cap". I sold it for $250. The weird thing is, I have seen other 1999 wide AM's that are just like this one. Check those 1999 stuck thru's.

    Brad

    www.lincolncentresource.com
     

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  13. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Brad,

    I grant you that the Designer's Initials are closer than normal for a "Close AM" Cent but I truly believe that the coin in question, has the "Close AM" Reverse! The closeness of the Initials may be due to the distortion done between the strikings.

    Also, why would a Coin Dealer call your' Cent a "Struck Thru" Error? It appears to be a full Brockage or possibly a Capped Die Strike!


    Frank
     
  14. Brad1975

    Brad1975 Member

    Here is the ANACS slab. "Struck thru late cap die". I thought it was a brockage too. ANACS did not label the slab correctly as a Wide AM, but I'm sure it is. As far as the 11 cent goes, it may not be a Wide AM, but it looks like it to me. Anyhow, I sold this coin to pay for a 1999 wide AM without any other problems.

    Brad
     

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  15. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Brad,

    I stand corrected as these type of errors are considered as "Struck Thru" Errors! I am more used to the more conventional "Struck Thru" Errors, such as Struck Thru Wire, Struck Thru Lint, Struck Thru Cloth, Struck Thru Grease and so on.


    Frank
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    That is one outrageous error.
    It could match my Ike struck over a Barber quarter....

    If it existed.
     
  17. Brad1975

    Brad1975 Member

    I try to stick to collecting varieties, not errors. To me the best error would be a Lincoln cent struck on a gold planchet.

    Brad
    www.lincolncentresource.com
     
  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    ANACS is correct. It was struck through a late stage die cap. It's not a brockage, since a brockage requires the presence of incuse, mirror-image design elements. "Struck thru" is a nonspecific term that encompasses any coin that is struck through an intervening object. Usually the term "struck thru" is employed for coins struck through "grease" or unidentified material.

    As for double denomination errors, a cent over a dime is the most common combination. They generally sell for about $800 - $900, but I've seen stellar specimens sell recently on ebay for less than $500.
     
  19. TC2007

    TC2007 Senior Member

    Keep us posted on this auction....I'd love to know how much it sells for.
     
  20. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    I agree- it looks like close AM to me. Though the A and M are not quite touching, they're still too close to be wide AM. I can't quite tell on the initials photographs due to the angle or lighting, but they seem to be of the close AM type as well.
     
  21. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    What do you think it's worth?
    Is there any way to look up the historic value of error coins?
     
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