$ 10 Liberty Guess the grade...

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  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I have been looking to add a $ 10 liberty to my collection and came across this one
    but am pretty shocked by the grade !
     
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  3. mpcusa

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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    MS-60 or between 1 and 70
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The photos make the surfaces look odd, especially on the obverse. They look to have been smoothed, although I doubt that. I see a slight break in the mint frost on Ms. Liberty’s neck. My guess is MS-63, but it’s probably 64.
     
  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Cleaned, AU Details.
     
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The picture makes me think Unc details, altered surfaces
    ...if that is just the picture and it is straight graded, I would go with MS 62 (plenty of chatter on the obverse)
     
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  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I agree with @ToughCOINS . AU-Cleaned.
    Nice for the right price I guess. ;)
     
  11. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I think it's a details coin also.
     
  12. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Well-Known Member

    AU Details... whizzed?
     
  13. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    My first guess would be MS-62 because it looks like luster left. If it is whizzed there's not enough light on the surfaces to be able to see it.
     
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  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Looking at this further, perhaps the photos have been photoshopped or puttied.

    At any rate, I would not buy the piece from these photos.
     
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  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Au58
     
  16. mpcusa

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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    This coin is to good to be only a 53
     
  18. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Here's the PCGS TrueView which shows all the problems which account for the 53. From a strictly wear standpoint it's probably a 55 to 58 but it's been net graded.

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  19. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    The PCGS Trueview tells the story. I think the grade makes sense. Saw a video once about how to quickly tell MS vs AU grades when it's a nice AU with seemingly MS details. It comes down to the surfaces.

    You may have cartwheel luster left as this one does, but it's limited to the protected areas between the stars around the rim. The fields between the devices and stars will be worn. No luster. The cartwheel luster does not go from the rim to the center of the coin. That feature should get you thinking AU on anything including this one. But luster is hard to judge in photos. Can only make judgements off of the details which gives you the spread of guesses you see here.

    AU-53 is probably a fair grade on that. Maybe if you submitted it enough times it could squeak out a 55 but... maybe not.
     
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  20. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    It’s funny, there are no details on the label ?
     
  21. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I was going to say 55 since there’s clearly wear over the ear and on the tips of the wings. Since you were shocked at the grade I was going to guess they were drinking that day and gave it a 63. Seeing that it’s a 53 and the tru-view shows more dings than the original pic, I’m ok with that.
     
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