well thanks for all your replies I think I'll go the used car rout. I normally drive them till there junk. and sell them to the junk yard. so instead of selling my collection wich is pretty vast, over three hundred a month for over fifteen years now, I'm going to melt it all and sell the bullion to the refinery, except for the currency. I'll use my uncurculated woodchopper to light my cigerette.