I just purchased a bill online and then decided to look through the future items for the same seller. I just found another bill with the same number. Looking for any info regarding 1800's state currency and if this is a normal occurance or if the bills are fake. The seller seems to deal primarily with this type of material so I am sure he knows what he is doing (right or wrong) Here are the pictures-
It looks like those two notes were cut apart by scissors in a rather uneven line. It looks like the bottom of the "A" note will line up nicely and fit the top of the "B" note.
So does that make them 1) real bills cut apart long ago 2) real bills cut apart recently (don't know why that would be done) 3) fakes ? I think #1 (and collected by who ever canceled the bills) but wanted to double check with a few people with a little more currency knowledge.
There have been cases of old bills recently cut apart. If a dealer thought he could sell two notes for more than an attached pair would bring, then he would cut them apart.
I'm not trying to be obnoxious, just looking out for a fellow collector. Why would you be buying obsolete notes without first knowing this?
They came from the same sheet. Whether they were separated recently or in the past is a matter of question. These notes (or at least notes of this type) were part of a hoard sold by the State of South Carolina a few years ago. Thousands of notes were sold in the lot which has since been dispersed into the market. Many uncut sheets were part of the sale. Here is an Ebay auction for an uncut sheet that shows how these notes were printed. http://cgi.ebay.com/1872-SOUTH-CARO...682?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563f7a52ea
I think the seller felt the individual notes would bring a greater return than a sheet would. That's what I am going to do with any sales of proof sets. Break them up. Why sell an entire set for the melt price of the half dollar ? gary
I liked the looks of the bill and it was cheap. but seriously- I studied the seller before buying and found that he has perfect reviews. I also look at all scans I could find for the bills in question and I didn't see anything that concerned me. I didn't expect any problems with fake bills I just didn't realize that they numbered sheets back then and not individual bills. Is that common knowledge? I haven't ever seen mention of that before. On a side note- If this was cut apart recently I would have expected a little better of a cut.
I don't know exactly how common the knowledge is, but yes, it's a good thing to know. Even some U.S. currency was numbered this way (all Nationals except the 1929 Type II's).
Here are a few items and lots if you'd like to check them out. I've purchased from these guys before and I believe they are fair. http://www.stantonbooks.com/books_us_currency.htm Prices range from $19.95 to $200+ Also, from Numisbooks33 - Auction catalogs for obsoletes... http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-9-BOOK-1-/310235842332?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f471c http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-9-BOOK-2-/310235843536?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f4bd0 http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-10-BOOK-3-/310235847390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f5ade http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-14-/310235852113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f6d51 http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-12-/310235854409?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f7649 http://cgi.ebay.com/SCHINGOETHE-OBSOLETE-PAPER-COLLECTION-PART-13-/310235856438?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483b7f7e36
They are different bills, one marked A, the other B. The stamps are also clearly in different spots along with the cancelation cuts. CheetahCats- I am going back and forth about buying the National Bank Notes, the local shop has the Liddell National Currency book and I have been able to look through that. I will look into picking up the Obsolete book.
Understand. For me personally, despite the litany of available online resources and books at the various shops I frequent, I value having my [own] numismatic library extremely great.
It's that Haxby CD set or the Books from Haxby that you need to look that up in. I have seen that note several times and it is a common one. But still a looker!!
