Nickel expert question...

This have a good shot at 67, or is the strike not strong enough ?

 

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no expert but that looks pretty darn good maybe 65 just to throw chance into the wind.

 

From what I can make out, you coin is cleaner than Lehigh's 67 and nearly as well struck. I would think it would have a shot at 67.

 

The coin is very clean but well stuck, I don't think so. The steps are not even close to complete, the overall look of Monticello is mushy, the windows & doors are incomplete, and the obverse hair is lacking in detail. Having said that, I would certainly grade it MS67. Here is my 1944-D's for comparisons sake.

 

I thought that was what I said - nearly as well struck. However, part of what you are calling a weak strike I am attributing to a dirt camera lens. Look at the temple and the hair behind it and the porch on Monticello. I am pretty sure that blurring (or at least most of it) is a dirty lens.

 

I would worry less about the strike (TPG's don't worry about it nearly as much as many collectors do) and more about luster.

In 66/67 it's ALL about luster (provided there aren't any major contact marks).

If that coin doesn't grade 67, I'll bet it's because of the luster. The fields are clean enough, the strike is strong enough. But is the luster good enough? The pictures suggest not, but I have been wrong before, and I will be wrong again.

All of the above IMO.

 

The lack of contact marks is essential when you get into the realm of 67+ but what is vital is mint luster and definition of strike. There are times when a scanner bed image of a coin does not do justice to the actual coin, so that must be taken into consideration when previewing for opinions. This might grade 67 in one house and 66 in yet another, but in the case of this one, I do not think this "war era" nickel has the necessary "pop" to garner the coveted 67.

I am by no means an "expert" in the field of grading Jefferson nickels, but after looking at literally 100's or 1,000's of nickels from this era, you get that gut instinct feeling for a high grade coin. It is still a rather nice example of this date and mint, nothing to turn your nose up to, good luck.

Happy Collecting

 

Not an expert but I think shot 67. It depends on the luster which I can not see very well in that photo.
Nice find.

 

Yeah,, Luster and strike are my concerns for 67.
The detail is better than shown in the pics on the reverse,, doors and windows are complete and visible, but abit faint. The steps are not complete, but somewhat stronger than shown.
I dropped the saturation in the pics down to 60 because my pics always have a lot of red in them... just can't get that stinking white balance right... so it gives it that scanned look.
Added a couple more pics with no saturation changes, and sharpness dialup up as far as the photo editor would allow... you can see a bit more noise now,, on the cheek, behind the ear, etc... but this is hard to see in hand without at least 5-10x.....
Good luster on the obv imo....booming luster is definitely lacking on the reverse,, the coin was in an old binder and it's dulled the reverses some. That said, the lack of hits on the reverse is notable,, let me know if you see any,, I can't find one....
I wonder if I sent it in to NGC for 'conservation' and grading if it would help get the luster back up to 67 standards,,,
,, and would it be worth it ? I see 87 of these in 67 from pcgs.. none in 68.
Anyone know what the populations are for ngc for this date ?

Gonna go through the rest of my unc jeff's and see if I can get 3-4 to submit,, if it's worth it.... if I do, i'll pass them by ya'll in this thread,, your feedback is kindly appreciated.

 

My opinion, PCGS- MS66 -Tops.. There is a seller on eBay who will slab and grade it for you at MS70- PERFECT

 

It is important to make the distinction between grading services. Bone Head is right that the coin will not go above MS66 for PCGS. However, I think the coin has a good shot at MS67 for NGC. I don't see any problem with the luster from those photos and the strike will not hold it back.

 

I will suggest a 64!! The pillars, door, the triangle looks way too soft! just my 2 cnts

 

Alrighty then!! I just read what the OP says up there, he may very well have a 66!!

 

I'd give the coin a 66 . If your lucky , and the Graders are in a good mood , perhaps a 67 .

 

well i can see why I put this one in a binder years ago.... after going through the entire
"bu" book, it was the only one worth showing,, I took it out and was gonna put it into a spiral notebook so it wouldn't be as exposed to the elements when I noticed the current binder resident... still have another book to go through,,, both nic's worth showing ya'll so far are both 44d's,,
Which one would you prefer,, the first, or this one.. luster is booming on both sides,, but more noticable hits.. especially the reverse dome hit... and what do you think it would grade ?

 

I would say that although I definitely like the first coin over the second, I don't believe that the strike is strong enough for MS-66 let alone MS-67. I generally defer to paul (Lehigh) because he is much more experiencecd with Jeffersons, but I don't think that the strike merits a 66. The die looks over-worn to me. The details are just not there, they are really mushy.

 

My "expert" (NOT) opinion is you have one 66 and one 67.
You should submit and let us know

 

The obverse of the second coin looks amazing!

The strike is strong enough that it will not be held back from 66/67 grade.

Reverse probably drops the coin a point or two. The gash in dome is distracting but really the only thing wrong with the coin.

I'd grade it a high end 66 or low end 67. That obverse is amazing.

 

OK,,, have started on my 2nd "bu" binder of Jeffersons..... managed to image through the 41-s,, and found one that "may" be worthy of Lehigh's nod... please tell. Looking to get 4 to submit if the group thinks they have a shot at "least" 66,,, although I'm really looking to go after 67's..... anyway,, here's one that appeared nice to me in the first few I'm looked at in the binder.... please let me know what you think it would grade at pcgs and ngc...
From what I've heard so far,,, ngc tends to be easier on jeff's than pcgs, so I'm inclined to go through ngc unless ya'll think I have something really special....
chime in ... and thanks again for all comments.

 

Im wondering what sites that help with more info about jefferson double dies and other things one need to know about this coin?