Neat Early US Counterstamp

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Caspar M. Berry ran a saloon on the northwest cornet of 5th and Chestnut St. between 1857 and 1860 in Philadelphia. He stamped these pieces in 1857 and then distributed them to be circulated and to promote his buisness. I picked this piece up at a small show this past weekend.

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  3. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    neat piece of history. Thanks.
     
  4. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    Question, I know Reales were used in what consisted of the United States, but I thought by 1857 they were no longer being accepted east of the Rocky Mountains?
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's a very cool item. Too bad he couldn't spell 'ChesTnut". :cool:
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Matt

    excellent piece!

    I like it.

    [for your collection? or inventory?]
     
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I haven't decided Frank. haha!
     
  8. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    The coinage act of 1857 demonetized foreign silver and created the small cent. So these could have very well have been used up until 1857. These 2 Reales coins were a pretty important part of the US monetary system until they were demonetized in 1857. Was this piece made before the act was passed??? Was it made after to show distaste for the act?? No idea.
     
  9. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    It wasn't uncommon to spell "Chestnut" without the "T". I've seen it on a number of counterstamped coins, as well as on some struck tokens. U.S. Counterstamps on Spanish 2-reales aren't common, although Berry's issues are known on nearly two dozen of them.

    If you're looking to sell LostDutchman, send me a private message. I'm always looking for nice c/s.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Cool coin! I like it even with the CS and wear - nice.
     
  11. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    I like it.

    Reallly nice.

    I like it.

    Most of mine just say things like "Good for 5 Cents at the bar".

    Like THAT is going to get you ice in a clean glass these daze......:confused:
     
  12. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    So could or do people do this today with our coinage?
     
  13. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    No. It is illegal to use current United States coinage for advertising in this manner.
     
  14. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    Of course they still do, its just not very common. I've seen plenty of bills with advertisements stamped on them (mostly vote for so-and-so). And then there's the occasional stamped penny. I have a 1961 with the free mason emblem on it.
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Murder, rape, robbery, and burglary are illegal but people "still do" them every day.
     
  16. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Oops!! ...... Better change my avatar.
     
  17. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Berry.JPG Berry 2.JPG
    I remembered your thread Matt and thought I'd post this one I just picked up in Baltimore on Friday. I got it from Steve Hayden for a decent price, although it's not as nice as yours. I'm not sure of the host coin, except it's an 1801 Spanish silver coin. Can anyone identify it for me? I bid on a Berry counterstamp on eBay a few weeks ago and fortunately lost it as the final price was bid up to a ridiculous, IMO, of $835.00. I got this one for $244.00 so I saved myself a lot of money. This is a $250 to $450 counterstamp as far as I'm concerned.

    Bruce
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Just because they were no longer legal tender doesn't mean they no longer circulated. Every so often for years afterward the government would still publish rates at which spanish silver would be accepted at the post office.

    True but counterstamp advertising has as its whole purpose to tell people were you can be found. It would be like your murderer or rapist publishing a signed confession letter in the paper with his actual address.
     
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