Coin Conservation Before and After

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Thanks Dutchman. So is this dip a proprietary thing, or is it an off the shelf product?
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins



    That thought came to my mind as well. I always thought of the acetone as being the "dip". What dipping agent do you use Matt? Or is it a "state secret"? :)
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I use a diluted form of the dip you can order from numismatic supply houses... It's called EZest.

    I once again have to stress that this is the stuff that can really fry your coin... acetone is pretty harmless... but this stuff can ruin your coin in a matter of seconds. It has taken me a long time to figure out how to conserve the few coins I do choose to do.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Which web browser do you use Mark? If I'm on AOL I always have the scrolling problem you indicate but, if I switch to fire fox the scrolling issue disappears.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    To be used with the disclaimer, "don't try this at home". Thanks Matt....:)
     
  7. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    I have a question . When this coin goes in your showcase , is it sold as "original " or is it labeled " conserved " ? Sorry for putting you on the hot seat LD .
     
  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Overall it is a positive to the hobby to berate everyone to never clean your coins. That is because 99% of all cleaning attempts do more damage than they help. So, to "ban" it effectively helps conserve the coins the most.

    Many, (most), of us here are advanced collectors, though, and need to understand that cleaning is very beneficial to many coins, and in fact is conservation when done like LostDutchman did it. What I am saying is we should tell the public to never clean their coins, but understand amongst ourselves that cleaning is done every day to both conserve and add value to coins, and is beneficialy to the hobby if done properly.
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    For me dipping only has ONE definition, using an acid-thiourea chemical on the coin. Anything else is rinsing or soaking.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    What LD did does not need to be disclosed at all. If the coin had lost luster, effectively "overdipped", then he should disclose it. He did a great job though.

    Seriously Coinman, I will guarantee if you collect coins over 40 years old that some of your coins have been dipped in their lifetime. It is a very common practice that is never disclosed unless there is damage. Improper storage damaged the coin, dipping if done correctly removes that unattractiveness. The dipper did not make the coin unattractive, the improper storage by the owner did.
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Thank for sharing! that!!! Dutch!

    Good explanation & nice out come !


     
  12. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    I agree. I was simply prompting his reply to that question . The comment was directed for his reply .
     
  13. conpewter

    conpewter Junior Member

    Thank you, I may try it someday. I don't collect high end coins, almost everything I have is from circulation. The first ever Ben I found in a roll is in pretty bad shape, it is well circulated but also had some grime/bad toning on it so I was looking to clean it up, just for personal enjoyment. The acetone took care of most of it's issues.
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It will be put in my showcase as a problem free coin because soon it will be graded by a grading company. If conserved properly there is no way the grading company can tell that they have been nor should they be able to because this coin has been restored properly to a condition that is more then acceptable. The coin would not have been gradable before conservation because of the PVC.
     
  15. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Thank you for your explanation .
     
  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    IE 6 at work. No problems at home. The difference between home and work is the resolution and monitor size. I ended up having to close down(still there, but minimized) all the stuff on the right column. Now once I did that even the pictures in the guess the grade threads appeared perfect without the scroll bars. The pictures really looked nicer. I plan on doing that at home also. Now everything looks okay on page 2 of the thread - now to check page 1 again.

    Yep - still incredibly huge. I think it is the placement of those ports(whatever they are called) on the right. Those that show new threads, buddies, etc.
     
  17. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Great example there LD! Hey y'all I remember reading somewhere that sometimes when you dip coins that the coin will end up with a round black spot on it and then once when I tried it I got a round black spot on one of my coins!!:eek: That's the pitts, but I remember I dipped two coins and one grew the evil black spot and the other didn't.:D Anyone know how to keep a round black spot from showing up?:eek:
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    To me, it's all cleaning. The OP did it right but many folks don't and damage the coin.
    I'm good with whatever folks wish to call it but I will always see it as cleaning.
    Just the way I see it.
     
  19. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Just as an update to this thread the original coin just graded PF68 Ultra Cameo at NGC. I'll post pics when it gets back to me.
     
  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Here is the coin in it's holder.

    franklin1.jpg franklin2.jpg

    So this coin sat around for years in an old ANACS PF65 Cameo holder. The coin has unattractive toning and was hazy. I paid $35 for this coin originally. It now sits in the holder above after being properly conserved.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I guess in this case, knowledge is money. That is a sharp looking coin now.
     
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