Seller ihjtoijsa135 (http://shop.ebay.com/ihjtoijsa135/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340) from Kuala Lampur, Malaysia shows us a group of photos of Pandas that sometimes have no denominations and sometimes have obverse and reverse sides with mismatched designs (by dates). Of special interest, some come packaged in pouches that look similar to those produced by the Shanghai Mint. For those unfamiliar with what a genuine Panda and pouch look like, this is a reminder to be careful. Note the pic of a 2007 silver Panda in a pouch (That date was released in capsules only, not pouches). Best wishes, Peter Anthony http://www.pandacollector.com
Yeah I see what PandaCollector is talking about. The auction for the "2010 10 Yuan Gold Chinese Panda coin" has a picture of what appears to be a 2001 (or 2002) silver panda design and the details of the obverse on the main pic are also suspicious IMO. It is not right. Here is the auction that I am talking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/AAA-2010-10-Yua...026?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a5ebbdc02 Run away from this ebay seller. Too many red flags in too many auctions.
Some of the photos are too small to say with 100% complete certainty, but from my view, none of the coins look genuine. The 5 oz coins in the photos lack denominations — a dead giveaway for a copy — and some of the one oz. coins have details that differ from certified coins I know are genuine. There are also some photos in the descriptions that are clearly of different coins than the ones in the thumbnails. I will follow 1970 Silver Art's advice and steer clear. Best wishes, Peter Anthony PandaCollector.com
It is perfectly legal to counterfeit any coin in China as long as it is dated before 1949 (the year the Communists took control of the Chinese government). I assume these fake Pandas are being made in China (like millions of other counterfeit coins). If so, how are these counterfeiters getting away with counterfeiting modern Chinese bullion?
This seller happens to be in Malaysia. Also, coins without denominations aren't considered counterfeits. As for the others, I guess it's a big country and enforcement of laws against copying collector coins - rather than circulating money - may be a low priority. Best wishes, Peter Anthony PandaCollector.com
