Awesome error.... Anyone Bidding?

I'm out of the running for this one. I went higher than I normally would have but had to stop because I didn't want to tie up so much cash on one note.

I hope I'm not blowing someone's chances at it but since it still hasn't met reserve, I figured it was okay to bring it to light.

I've seen one other like this and the price was more than I make in a couple of months.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380266258026&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

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Man, that's an awesome error!!! I wish I could bid, but I got a coin show Sunday.

 

That is 100%, no doubt about it, completely and totally fake. Somebody's got a good printer, too much spare time, and not enough conscience. Don't touch it with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole. :headbang:

 

You think? How can you tell? I'm not that good with currency, but from my point of view, it is 100% real.

 

Wow! Thanks for that Numbers! I was wondering why it wasn't certified and you just answered that question.

I thought the seller was a reputable, experienced dealer.

 

For one, most of that printing is all done from a single plate. You wouldn't have the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" triple-printed without the majority of the rest of the image triple-printed as well.

Interesting piece though, I'd like to see it close up.

Dave

 

The black "L" seal and the district numbers "12" are part of the overprint, while the signatures, series date, plate number, and "The United States of America" are part of the intaglio printing plate. The two are completely independent of each other, but on this note, they're triplicated in perfect alignment with each other. That can't happen inside the BEP--but it can happen just fine if you scan a note, erase the parts you don't want, and then print the result onto another note. I'm pretty sure this is a genuine $1 note, but all the extra design elements were added via laser printer. The faker didn't even bother to remove the edge of the paper from one of his scans--that's the source of the thin horizontal line near the top, that doesn't correspond to any part of the actual printing.

This is what a genuine error of this sort looks like. Note that the entire overprint is doubled, and none of the intaglio printing is affected.

I'm not familiar with this seller myself, but I've seen reputable, experienced dealers fall for fake errors before. Just because he's selling it doesn't mean he made it; he may not realize it's not legitimate, especially if errors aren't his specialty.... I hope he didn't pay too much for it, 'cause it's worth $1. If you know the seller, you may want to contact him and break the news gently....

 

the only way I could see that happening is if the sheet was run through the press three times. that would never happen

 

I thought the OP was being sarcastic and meant his bidding in jest. As an error it did look awfully odd but I couldn't describe it as such. I would generally stay away from any dramatic errors on eBay unless TPG authenticated, which is why when I see error finds presented on CT, that I suggest people seriously consider TPG assistance with authenticating the note if they intend to resell their error notes.

BTW, has anyone reported this note on eBay as a fake so they can pull the listing, protect the bidders who may not know better?

 

Toolhaus for anthonysrarecoins

 

Man, did i jump the gun! The one from Don Kelly was the one I had seen originally and then the one on ebay showed up and I assumed (you know what that means) that it was a similar error.

Thanks for stopping me from making a very expensive mistake! I'm really glad I posted it here. I took a long time for me to get an understanding about how coin production work so I could spot phony errors. Now, I'll have to curtail my enthusiasm and learn currency production as well.

 

When you copy this image and open it in Photoshop you can compare the signatures (the real one-vs- the newly printed ones) you can see the difference. Also look at the plate # 118.. the "8" is not crisp and filled in as well as the "o" in Snow.... Numbers is 1000% correct..I would say a 100 foot pole at minimum.


RB

 

I saved the images to add to my educational file and noticed the same thing, that it was faked. I later read that others caught on that it was a fake as well. When you look at the images you can tell it's not the real deal.

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Faked_One_Dollar_Error_Bill.jpg

 

Fabulous! I wish I could change the title of the thread to "Fake Error!":foot-mouth:

 

Did you see his toolhaus. That's horrible that you can keep a 99.8% and have that much on toolhaus.
I"'m going to have to look at toolhous more often it seems.

 

For future reference, this is a *really* bizarre and rare error type. I'm pretty sure that all the examples I've ever seen have been 1976 $2's with serial numbers very close to that note of Don Kelly's. Judging by said serials, there are probably a few dozen of them out there from that printing, but that's not a lot when you consider all the collectors who'd love to own an error this spectacular.

 

Did you see my post above? :thumb:

 

Is anybody going to report this to eBay before the auction ends?

 

I asked the same thing, if anyone had done so already. I hesitated to do so since it's eBay.CA and I have never used any other eBay but eBay.com, does this matter? Does a registered Canadian user need to do this?

 

Can I submit this thread link when I send the report?