Joan of Arc: would like a picture

Anyone have a picture of a coin that has Joan's face on it? Franklin Mint has a beautiful medallion that I wish I could use, but one of the rules I set for myself when I started doing this comic strip 2 years ago was, only actual coins. I've stretched that a few times for cameos, but Joan's one of my regular characters.

Oh, this coin is a 2 Euro French City of Orleans, possibly 1993? I don't collect the actual coins, just the images (and usually alter them once I have them) so I don't always have very detailed information.

~Owen

 

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I couldn't find ANY coins with her face on it,strange considering she's the patron saint of France.As you said,there are quite a few tokens/medals with one or two depicting close-ups of her face but most are like the one you posted,full armor or long distance equestrian views.
Here's a prayer medal I call Joan of the Cabbage Patch.

 

That's better

 

Nice images, and clearly identify the subject, but not coins, *sigh*. Thanks muchly for trying, Mikjo0. Keep an eye open, maybe something will still show up.

Like a kite that flies best when it's being held down, keeping restrictions on what I can use helps keep my strip focused. (I did use Olympic medallions in one arc during the Olympics, but that seemed like a justified cameo.)

BTW, if you've got any particular suggestions of other historical characters that might make worthy additions to my troupe, I might be interested in hearing about them, though I've still got several I haven't even used yet (Caeser, Charlemagne, Cleopatra, P.T.Barnum, Dan'l Boone, Kublai Khan, Krisna, Alexander/Hercules).

 

Not that strange - think of separation of church and state. It's not the French government that would make her a "patron saint" ...

The French Mint has of course issued quite a few coins dedicated to people who have something to do with Christianity in France. But I don't think that Jeanne d'Arc is on any of them. And while the Mint also makes those touristic jetons that you can buy at pretty much any major touristic site in France, the one for the church of Sainte Jeanne d'Arc in Rouen shows the church, not Jeanne.

This seems to a medal made by the MdP about 50 years ago:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8364018319
But the pictures are kind of blurry.

Christian

 

If there ever was a worse portrait on a coin than Susan B. it was the Cleopatra/Marc Anthony denarius minted during her lifetime.I can't imagine how a woman who is known as beautiful and desireable would have allowed this portrait to go public...she's the one on the right..LOL

 

Cleopatra Comparison



These are the two versions of Cleo that I considered as my finalists. Both are Cleopatra VII — THE Cleopatra — the one that looks like Harpo Marx is a tetradracma from 78BC, the one on the left is an 80 drachmae from 51BC. I finally settled for the long-necked one as being the one I thought was prettier. Though I still keep the other in reserve. Never know when I might ave a plot where I want a teen-age version of a character talking to an older version, and Cleo'd be a prime candidate for that scenario, since she had so many coins made of her.

 

Nothing great, but I found this one that is supposedly Joan of Arc at http://www.ancient-art.com/images/mc218.jpg

 

Great find, Mr.Spud, but even if the quality were better (and I could take care of enhancing that ) I checked out the web reference you so kindly gave, and as I read it, this is Joan's king, Charles II, (looks like it might almost be his coat of arms, actually, with a helm above {standard} and boots below {odd}) and a coin that was in use during her lifetime. Revered as she was, I doubt she would have been put on currency that early. Sorry, but I really, really do appreciate your trying! :hug:

~Owen

 

If I recall correctly there is an avenue which opens up (southside) in the Louve courtyard (before the renovation) which has a beautiful statue of "Joan Of Arc" right in the middle of the street.

B

 

Oh yeah, it is the king and not Joan. Sorry, I got all excited when I got a hit for a Joan of Arc coin and didn't read it all the way through :goof:

 

You are correct. The person depicted on the coin is either John I or Charles II of Lorainne. I'm not sure which. The Maid of Orleans did not appear on any french regal coinage, nor anyone elses coinage that i'm aware of.

 

How about this one I just found at http://coins.delcampe.com/item.php?language=E&id_enchere=03512472



Or one of the ones at
http://www.jeanne-darc.dk/p_miscellaneous/0_coins/coins_02.html

 

Sadly, there are no `Joan of Arc' coins (at least not that I have ever seen). Granted, these do look `coin like' but they are not coins. They don't have any value associated with them nor did they ever have any `legal tender' status.

The first one is a commemorative medalet / small medallion issued by the town of Orleans (I think). `Cuivre' means copper and `argente' means silvered, hence you have a silver plated copper medallion. I'm not sure when it was made, but I suspect sometime between the 1820's - 1840's. Itwas never minted for use as currency however and would never have been used for such.

Ian

 

How about Jetons? I found a couple of Joan of Arc Jetons at http://coins.delcampe.com/liste.php...builder_type=AND&searchbuilder_inc=arc&cat=20 . Do these count as coins?

 

I couldn't refind the jetons in the site above when I searched again, I forgot how I found them. But anyways I just did another search for Joan of Arc Jetons and found the one below. Do this count as a coin?

http://www.lioncoins.com/jpegs/994.jpg

 

To find some J D'arc jetons on Delcampe do a search using the keyword arc and under `coins'. It turns up sixteen or so items one of which is the item you originally highlighted.

I don't want to speak for the original poster you are trying to help out but a coin is usually defined along the lines of being issued by a recognised national government as a legal tender piece withing the boundaries of the nation issuing it. Normally it will carry a denomination on it. A US quarter dollar for example is a coin. It expresses the country authorising it, the value, and it is legal to use in commerce anywhere within the territorial limits of the US.

The items (jetons/medalets) you have been highlighting do not fit the generally accepted definition of a coin. That having been said, many earlier silver and copper jetons were indeed used in exchange as token coinage. This is because the value of coins was based upon the value of the metal content. This fact still did not make them `legal tender'. That is, if someone was willing to accept them in exchange for goods etcetera then fine, but there was no requirement to do so.

The ones highlighted are not of the right age to have seen any life in commerce.

 

Joan was not suppose to be a very...how do I put this...'pretty' person. Lol, she wasn't ugly either, she was 'plain' as most of the books put it.
I haven't heard of her on any coins before, but she's on plenty of prayer medals. There are some people in France who don't really think she helped them that much, while of course others think otherwise. (She was leading an army at 16, that has to count for something. plus the fact she was a woman...)
I did a report on her in 8th grade I wish she was on a coin, I'd definetly(sp) do everything I could to get it!

 

Jeanne d' Arc as portrayed by LeeLee Sobieski was a hottie, at least LeeLee Sobieski is.

 

One of my main characters is an Arcade Token, and I've got a second one in the wings to show up as his country cousin or something once I've come up with a good plot idea, so jetons aren't too far off from that. A token is an acceptable "coin" for my usage in my comic strip.

That copper piece from Lion Coins looked very promising for a moment, but checking out the description, it seems to be just a tourist medallion, and not a jeton. *sigh*. The others turned up are likewise either medallions or equestrian views, which is what I have already.

Ah, well, here's Arcade's first appearance, back when the strip was only 2 weeks old (you'll notice the quality of reproduction has increased markedly since then).


And the end of that story arc, a few days later:


~Owen