1799 Cent PCGS VF30 CAC

I got the opportunity yesterday to photograph this coin. It's in a major collection I'm helping to assemble. It has been graded VF30 by PCGS and CAC. Enjoy!

 

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Don't get me wrong - nice coin. But I feel it should be in a details holder.

 

Funny you mention that. This was the only coin added to the collection that I wasn't directly responsible for. I thought this one might spark some conversation actually. I don't necessarily disagree with you.

 

i agree with a details holder but then how would that explain it getting CAC approval?

also nice key date. i dont think ill be adding one like that to my collection anytime soon.

 

Great Coin, but I agree.. Should not see a CAC sticker on it nor should it be in the slab its in.. Unless these pictures are really deceiving that is.

 

Very nice!!!!:thumb::thumb:
ff-topic:
last week Coin World had one a grade or 2 higher.but get this it was in the Pcgs Plus holder&CAC.
I think that just wasting money to have one re-grade 2 times again

 

That is a nice coin, but looks like wrong holder imo. The surfaces look corroded, and or porous. It really looks like it could be a metal detecting find. I have dug large cents with similar surfaces.

 

[insert rant PCGS allowing this coin to grade, but if it was an 1803 it would Genuine]

 

Regardless, what a super cool coin and I would be more than happy with an AG with readable date.

 

Nice coin S-189 VF-35 details, dark, with moderate corrosion on both obv and reverse heavier on the obv from 10:00 - 12:00 I'd give it a net VG-10 Average-. If it wasn't a 99 it wouldn't have slabbed, and there is no way it should have gotten a bean. A true problem free VF-30 would tie for CC2. I don't think this one would quite make the top 18.

 

Now it appears that we can not even depend on the "bean'. Guess we need a third grade posted on this coin. How about a slab, for a slab or maybe even a CT sticker?

 

Well, it is a 99 so...but on the other hand I beleive that the porous surfaces and corrosion ought to have raised some red flags with the cac people, but then they are just parroting the TPGs for the most part.

 

Am I actually seeing what I think I'm seeing? The rarest of the 1799s? The NC-1? Both leaves at T are clear from the stem, though just barely so.

It's an AMAZING coin. Is it one of the 7-9 known examples or is it a new discovery? Please tell me more!!!!!!!!!

Condor! Would you please double check the attribution concentrating on the lower outside leaves at T. I trust your eyes more than mine.

 

If I remember right it was identified as S-189 but It could be wrong. I am by far an expert on these varieties. I'll defer to the experts on this one. If it is the NC-1 it was definitely not bought as one.

 

It can't be an NC-1 because the date is wrong on the obverse. The 9s are just too close for Obverse 1. It IS either Obverse 2 or a similar NEW Obverse. The I appears to just touch the L and if that is not from the photography or corrosion, it might even be a new Obverse since there is separation on both Obverses 1 and 2. The Reverse looks like Reverse A to me though most of the diagnostics only attempt to make the distinction between NC-1 (Reverse A) and S-188 (Reverse B) and less attention is paid to the differences with Reverse C which is VERY close.

I'd keep studying this one for a while. It may be a S-189, but there are two things that don't seem to fit. The I touching the L and the separation of the outside leaves from the stem.

The Reverse has the chip between E and T so it IS Reverse C though it has better separation from the stem than all other comparison coins I've seen. The only remaining question I have is whether it's Obverse 2 or a new similar Obverse and that is ONLY because of the apparent touching of the L and I. If this is from damage or lighting, then it's the S-189 as described. If not, it's a unique new NC-2.

 

Does this help?
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I couldn't pull up the attachment.

 

How about this one?

 

Me too. This is a very cool coin and tough date. I could probably let some things slide.