would this be ungradable due to environmental damage?

I would guess yes, but just curious what you all think. It's nice the date is readable. (Note I did not bid on this coin as I shy away from anything that is not PCGS graded) The bid is up to $280 currently.

 

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(i guess the other question is ... could this coin be a fake?) ... the word LIBERTY seems unusually readable giving the corrosion on the bust/cheek

 

Ungradeable due to corrosion.

That doesn't mean it it's not an interesting piece - it is. But it's been through a lot... corrosion, cleaning, recoloring, and no telling what else.

Post up the reverse. We can all take a closer look to verify it's genuine (I'm not convinced it is).

 

You betcha.

The other thing that bothers me are the denticles and the border. They seem unusually bold and well defined. The border from K11 to K5 seems too broad.

 

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I,m no expert but this coin looks like a fake to me. Libertys nose and mouth just don,t look right.

 

It's strange ... THe same seller has ANOTHER beat up 1794 ... going off in an auction a few minutes after the coin noted above

 

First coin sold for $280 ... the second coin sold for $180 ... quite a few bids (15 and 16)

 

First coin looks fake - not an expert on it. The second 1794 Large Cent looks legit. The crack through the D should make it easy to attribute.

 

You have a better eye than I mark_h ... that's the trouble with buying unslabbed coins ... it's a roll of the dice.

If I knew for certain coin #2 was genuine ... I would have bid on it ... $180 isnt that much money.

 

S-41 with the familiar "pizza slice" die crack pair

 

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Actually if not sure I would not buy. Some of the fakes I have seen I could not attribute.

I was just off looking to attribute it.

 

you do realize that the first piece is a 1/2 cent.

or do you?

 

yes, 1st coin was a 1794 half cent ... second coin was a 1794 large cent ... so it looks like the consensus was the 1st coin was questionable (fake perhaps) and the 2nd was genuine ... one day I hope to be able to pick this out myself!

 

Anytime I see a Liberty Cap Half Cent, I immediately think of a fake BECAUSE it is NOT just a smaller portrait of the Cent but entirely different. I would have to become more familiar with Liberty Cap Half Cents for this not to happen.

 

Both coins would not grade problem-free at NGC/PCGS -- and rightfully so, IMO.

That said, they are both cool coins!

 

The half cent is real. And I had the large cent on my watch list for awhile and i would have bid on it but then I found out about the upcoming pre-Long Beach sle that the Goldberg's are having and there are some things in it I would rather chase.