I would like some help please

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by artimus, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. artimus

    artimus Junior Member

    I have four two dollar bills all numbered in sequence H 01544196 A to 99 A. I have found that the E is missing in treasury on the green seal. Is that a known error or would it be an error at all? Thanks in advance... Bill
     

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  3. krispy

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    Interesting. Are all four of your notes "missing" the E? I'm not sure if its an error or just a clogged plate that occurred during printing, but wasn't caught during quality control inspection.
     
  4. artimus

    artimus Junior Member

    Yeah, all four are missing the E. Hopefully someone has seen this before..
     
  5. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Are all four the exact same? Sometimes a clogged plate can be more filled in one area than another and from one sheet to the next. You might want to post the plate position numbers from the front and back for other members to get an idea of where the notes were in the print run.

    From what I think I can see in your one close up image is what looks like a faint trace of the "E", but fully filled in with green ink. Curious what some of the other paper guys will tell us about this.
     
  6. krispy

    krispy krispy

    You might also contact this dealer, usarare.com who sells a lot of error notes to see if they can help you identify this as an error or not.
     
  7. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    Could be an obstructed seal error...a foreign piece of material got into the plate and blocked out the "E".
    You can also check with Fred Bart at www.executivecurrency.com

    Interesting indeed.

    RB
     
  8. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I have several that have the District seal detail obscured. The slab indicates that is is and "Error-Minor Overinking of District Seal". I don't know if this would be different from what happened on yours but there really wasn't any premium added because of this. I paid about $7 each for three notes one graded 66 and two graded 67.



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  9. krispy

    krispy krispy

    That's great! I went through my notes and no such inking problems. Just one more thing to be on the look out for.

    The "Deral Rerser" Bank sort of makes me chuckle though. :smile
     
  10. artimus

    artimus Junior Member

    Hey, thanks for the input & the links. I guess I need to do more research..

    I will let you know if I find out what this is called..
     
  11. lettow

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  12. artimus

    artimus Junior Member

    Thanks, I'll give it a try...
     
  13. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Let us CT'ers know if you learn anything about the note over there... :thumb:
     
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  15. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    The "E" is there , just not that visible to the naked eye .
     
  16. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Actually, the "E" is never supposed to be printed as it is created by negative space, an empty region of the design on the plate which does not (should not ever) take ink for transfer to paper. The "E" visually emerges from the greater Treasury seal design once the seal has been printed. The "E" is just blank paper showing through the design of the seal.

    What we are seeing in the OP's example is a clogged plate. Ink has filled the entire gap on the plate that creates the letter "E" out of an unprinted area of the paper. In this case no "E" can be perceived from the negative space because that space is filled in with ink or debris from the print process and instead has printed a 100% green field where the seal design ought to be cleared to define the shape of that "E".

    The plate itself has made impression enough to discern a heavier build up of ink around the edges of the blank "E" area to suggest the gap exists (as seen by looking carefully at the OPs close up image) so the plate is not an error itself. Instead the ink was allowed to build up in this gap in the plate, the field is flat and capable of taking/transferring ink where it should not.

    :smile
     
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