Strange Peace Dollar - what's with it?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mycohopper, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. mycohopper

    mycohopper Junior Member

    First off, both of these dollars have been cleaned with a silver dip -- they are roughly in the same condition with a nice strike and very little wear. Question: why is the dollar on the left so dull looking when the Peace on the right is literally shimmering with luster? Would the dull dollar even grade?

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  3. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    The one on the left has been dipped a few times too many resulting in loss of luster.
     
  4. krispy

    krispy krispy

    ...and any coin can be given some sort of a grade.
     
  5. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot

    Stop dipping, it's very hard to get peace dollar toners.


     
  6. tommybee

    tommybee Junior Member

    It is hard to tell. However, I think the one on the left has been circulated. I see some wear in the hair and the base of the neck. Peace Dollars are tough to grade when you are holding them in your hand. Let alone looking at photographs.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The lack of definition on the 1923 is probably due to a weak strike rather than circulation, and I agree with coleguy that it has been dipped a few too many times.

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  8. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    the 23' might be a Unc. but the second ones way to bright to believe
     
  9. mycohopper

    mycohopper Junior Member

    Regarding the grade - the '23 seems to have a significantly smaller amount of contact marks compared to the '22. Would this indicate that it would grade higher than the '22? Or would the assumption that it's been dipped too many times prevent it from even grading at all?
     
  10. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    Firstly, neither of those dollars are worth grading untill you get up into ms66 because they are very common. That being said, TPG's grade heavily on luster, and this series is known for BOOMING luster in better specimens. The one on the left looks lightly circulated, and as other posters have stated, dipped out. The one on the right has some of that nice luster, but some contact marks to go with it. Certainly nice coins, but not good candidates for a grading submission IMHO.
     
  11. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    ya, "officially" I would give the 23 a MS-63 w/ a possible dipping but neither is anywhere close to being fit for grading (how many million where minted ? lol )
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    IMO, the first coin has been overdipped, the second hasn't.
     
  13. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    1st one is dipped almost to the point of lifelessness, but would still grade. Probably would've gotten a 64 if not overdipped, but I would say MS-63 for both.
     
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