Is this coin actually a proof?

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  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

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  3. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    Nope, Proofs weren't minted at the San Fransisco mint until 1968.

    Charlie
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I didn't even consider that fact : ), but that's probably because I didn't know it :)
     
  5. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    In the description he says extremely fine. Idk if he just doesn't know what he's saying, or if it is ef.
     
  6. Indianhead1990

    Indianhead1990 New Member

    *Suppresses Laughter* I wonder who that guy thinks is going to bid on it. lol
     
  7. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    someone bought it despite the shipping cost being 20 dollars!
     
  8. bigdog69

    bigdog69 Member

    OMG $20.00 shipping plus $2.50 insurance
    You would think shipping like that , it's insured
    Just goes to show "there's a sucker born every minute and 2 to take him"
    :D P.T. Bartum
     
  9. smithrow1

    smithrow1 New Member

    Then don't forget insurance is optional for $2.50. The $20 shipping doesn't include insurance.
     
  10. Indianhead1990

    Indianhead1990 New Member

    I was able to ship my RC Monster Truck for less that 15 dollars, and that was through UPS. :D
     
  11. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    How about this quote from the sale

    This ebay sale brought to you by the Letter 3!!!!!!!!
     
  12. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    "It is still in its original packaging."

    Which would be... loose on a table? I guess that's packaging... sort of.
     
  13. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Okay, I'll bite. Why is that important when talking about a Denver coin? Or am I the only one who ignored the description and looked at the coin?
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Regardless of the mint mark - there were no Proof Morgan dollars struck in 1921, period.
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow


    In a message from heritage:

    Another fine piece from this collection is the 1921-S, also graded PR64 by PCGS. The appearance of a 1921-S proof Morgan dollar at a public sale is cause for excitement. It is thought that fewer than 25 of these coins were struck, and their appearance on the market is infrequent. Walter Breen, in his 1977 Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Proof Coins, refers to what may be the first report of the '21-S proof Morgan: 'Wayte Raymond told me in 1951 that Farran Zerbe had those coins made at San Francisco to go with the Philadelphia proofs from the first dollar dies received at the mint.'

    Stuart Mosher, who was in charge of the coin collections in the Smithsonian Institution, elaborated on Zerbe's 1921-S Morgan proof involvement in an article he published in the July 1955 The Numismatist. Mosher said that Zerbe was in California in 1921 awaiting the arrival of the dies that were to be used to strike the first Peace dollars that he had designed. The dies that did arrive turned out to be those for the old Morgan design that had not been coined since 1904. The story goes that Zerbe told the chagrined Mint officials that they could mollify his disappointment 'if they would strike off a few Morgan dollars from the new 1921 dies in proof condition. They were happy to oblige and manufactured about two dozen which he bought and later handed out to his various coin collecting friends.'


    So I think one of you all is wrong. According to this a proof 1921-S is going to be auctioned.
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Just who was Mr Zerbe that he could tell the mint what coins to mint and what not too??
    I find one place that says that there were proofs in 1921...something like 10 minted....put it says 1921-P....it says that proof 1921S are real but they need to be graded and slabed for sure.

    Speedy
     
  17. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Did anyone look at the rest of his coin items???
    I don't know why he says NOT $2 BILL....??....

    Speedy
     
  18. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    The date on the coin is 1880. It looks like a 1880-O from the picture, but the seller says it is an 1880-S.

    Charlie
     
  19. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    I wondered the same thing. I did see he had a $2 bill for auction though...maybe he messed up at first and had to edit his auctions.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Here is a link to the auction. It says it is graded by PCGS - I know you do not like them :), but I think they count. I just happened to catch this post and the current e-mail notice from Heritage. I think there is another that is a 1921 PCGS PR66 and a PR64 - all at heritage.
     
  21. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    Maybe he's keyword spamming. :rolling:

    Charlie
     
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