1944 D over S cent OM002 or something else?

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  1. coin_newbie

    coin_newbie Junior Member

    I was going through some wheat cents tonight and came across a 1944 D where the mint mark looked odd. Attached are four different images of this. I did not adjust color, brightness, sharpness, etc. on any of these.

    What I'm seeing in these pictures is an "S" mint mark to the north and west of the "D" mark. I don't think it's just some odd trick of light or wear -- I was able to get images of this from multiple angles and they all seem to show the same thing.

    lincolncentresource calls for OM002 to show the "S" southwest of the D.

    Is this likely to be an undocumented OMM? Am I nuts even for thinking that? :D
     

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  3. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    This belongs in the error section.
     
  4. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    While it is an error coin, it's also a US coin.
     
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  6. Harry Behemoth

    Harry Behemoth Junior Member

    It does not appear to be the overmintmark... on Billyray's picture the mintmark appears positioned squarely between the 9 and 4, while on your coin it appears shifted in the direction of the 4.

    Edit... I just reread your post...you're wondering it is a new or different OMM. That would be very cool...let's see some more pictures!
     
  7. coin_newbie

    coin_newbie Junior Member

    Harry, what sort of other photos do you think would help?

    Billyray, I did check out coppercoins as well and only saw the two "standard" RPM items for 44d. Thanks for the link.
     
  8. black-dog7315

    black-dog7315 Junior Member

    I've seen a few misplaced mint marks before, and a lot of them wind up being in the date. Is there something going on with the first 4? Or am I just seeing things?
     
  9. coop

    coop Senior Member

    Sorry, I don't see anything in the images provided. The coin has some undesireable stuff around the mint mark. So it is hard to tell what is there. Here are a couple of images to compare your coin.
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  10. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    I agree that it is possibly a 1944D-10M-002 after taking a closer look. It is something you need to take to a dealer for verification I think. Nothing is as good as coin in hand examinations. IMHO
     
  11. coin_newbie

    coin_newbie Junior Member

    Thanks for the tips and suggestions.

    Also, now that I followed the provided link to coppercoins I see that it's more detailed than what I had looked at on that site before. I'll take a closer look at that and the coin when I get a chance tomorrow.

    One question -- looking at the photo provided by coop, it looks like the "S" in OMM-02 is "above and to the left" (or, what I would have called northwest) of the "D". Am I looking at that correctly? lincolncentresource had said "the S can be seen southwest of the D." If it's really northwest, then that would match what I'm seeing on my coin.
     
  12. coop

    coop Senior Member

    It is actually a SW. The loop on the West side is the upper loop of the S. The line through the center is midway. Just a small part of the OMM is showing below the lower serif.
     
  13. Harry Behemoth

    Harry Behemoth Junior Member

    Am I correct in stating you are looking at the S as shown in this picture, which is not one of the overdate varieties shown above but potentially a new overdate?

    44 S.jpg
     
  14. coin_newbie

    coin_newbie Junior Member

    Harry, yes, that's what I think I'm seeing.
     
  15. Harry Behemoth

    Harry Behemoth Junior Member

  16. coop

    coop Senior Member

  17. coin_newbie

    coin_newbie Junior Member

    Cool, thanks, coop. That image you just put up is the one that I see the "S" most clearly in for OMM-02.

    So, it seems like it's not OMM-02. Which means it's either nothing (which I assume is the more likely answer) OR it's a totally different OMM.

    I would try taking more photographs now and seeing if I could get a better picture, but our camera is being otherwise utilized at the moment. I'll try getting more pictures in the next day or so.

    Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts!
     
  18. coop

    coop Senior Member

    The eyes sometimes put something there that isn't. We've all been there before. LOL
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  19. Harry Behemoth

    Harry Behemoth Junior Member

    I absolutely agree!
     
  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    All I see is accumulated dirt around ALL devices.
     
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