PCSG Photograde Mule?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Aug 1, 2010.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I was wondering if Photograde used the same coin to illustrate both obverse and reverse grades. The tone leads one to think so. But if that IS the case, the Liberty Cap AG3 is a really unusual new mule with the pairing of the 1794 S-30 Obverse 11 (doubled) with the 1795 S-78 Reverse E.

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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Interesting - don't have that book. I can't see enough of either to attribute it. They had a 1794 at the shop yesterday that had a great head and date - everything else was worn off. I like the planchet, but since I could not attribute it based off that alone, I skipped getting it. Do you think you could?
     
  4. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm always wiling to give it a shot. I need either photos or a link to photos. Sometimes the smallest visible element is all it takes for attribution and other times a single missing element prevents attribution. The great thing about 1794s is that the hair is often unique since they hadn't begun using a die punch for the face detail yet.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Let me check and make sure I can use it in my album. If so next weekend I will return and get it. Sad thing is they had no bust coinage at all.
     
  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    If the price is around $50, get it anyway and I'll take it. Any lettered edge is worth that even if unattributable as to variety.

    ps If you do get it, make sure to include photos of the edge as well as the obverse and reverse. In particular the edge showing the leaf after DOLLAR.
     
  7. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    If it was $50 I would already have it. :) It is around $170. I liked the planchet, but could not attribute it with what few details it had. I am going to see if they still have it this weekend. Besides I want to see if they have a few coins to fillout a couple of lincoln books I have.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Careful, that's how I got started with the large cents. "I can't afford to collect by variety, but I really like the Draped Busts so I'll just do a date set of those." And they are very addictive. As John Wright once said about his collection "You start out with just a date set. Then you start adding the die varieties. When you get as far as you can with that you start adding die states. Finally you find yourself there some day holding a large cent and thinking I already have this date, and this variety, and even this die state. . . . I don't have a green one! Any excuse to buy another one."
     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I stopped looking for excuses. I just finished counting my Early date set and discovered I have 13 Liberty Caps (2 Duplicates), 98 Draped Busts (34 Duplicates), 8 Classic (2 Duplicates), 1 unattributable draped bust, 1 unattributable classic and 1 two headed draped bust 1802/1803. The only regret I ever had was selling a B-1 S-238 when I was desperate for cash. It's the only old copper I've ever let go.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have been resisting but I'm at the "You start adding die states" point. There are still a few 1794 caps I can afford to get but that is about it. I also swear that eventually I'll get that S-1 and finish off my chains. (The one I barely missed out on at EAC two years ago has been up for sale ever since. I just need to start socking away the money for it.)

    I'm at 3 chains, 1 wreath, 41 caps, 187 draped bust, and 19 classics for a total of 251 varieties. Plus I don't know how many duplicates.
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I stopped the variety collecting - pretty much. :) I know I have a couple of extra's in my album - 1811/0, 1817 15 stars. I have maybe 120 large cents. So most of those are coronet and braided hair. All my other varieties are either sold or up for sale. Of course with all those extra chains and caps I have some openings in my album I would be willing to hold them in for you. :)
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That's OK, I have plenty of cotton sleeves, paper envelopes and double row boxes. :)
     
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