Here is a 1892-S Barber Quarter. First photos my friend took and the next set I did with my Scanner which quality isn't that great. What do you think for a value? :rolling:
Took the coin over to a local coin shop today. Actually the coin is in just about uncirculated condition. Reverse is really nice and the Obverse has that dark line from the wreath down left of the eye and lip from where the rubberband was holding the old type 2 x 2's and made the mark. Also a spot at the 8 o'clock position. Said should be a minimum of $350 for it. Numismatic News Dec Coin Market Price Guide has an AU-50 at 300 and MS-60 at 480. Only 964,079 so one of the harder dates. Hoping I can get the dark line off but not sure if I want to take the risk and dip it in asetone.
dont do it I would definetely not clean that coin for whatever reason. Send it in to get authenticated by one of the big 3 and then it will be preserved for a long long time. Plus you would get more for it if it is slabbed than raw.
Thanks TDEC1000 and Bigred1001. I was thinking about sending it to get it certified. You mentioned the big three. I was looking at NGC or PCGS. What would be your third choice? Anacs? Thanks
i prefer anacs. however, pcgs is the one to go to for authenticity and value and prefrence for buyers.
I decided to join this from the NGC site. CCG’s Certified Collectors’ Society. It cost 99 bucks and you get coupons for 5 free early bird submissions from NGC and a MS68 American Eagle. Seemed like a good deal and I have a few 1877 Seated Liberty Quarters that are least AU and a Really nice 1917 Mercury Dime uncirculated with great luster and FSB. That's 4 there so I am sure I can find another one. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.
I would either go with NGC or ANACS for this coin....more than likely if I was planing on selling it I would go NGC. Speedy
Save your money on that particular coin - it will come back in a body bag. That is damage on the cheek. And I think someone tried to do a frost job as well.
I've never heard of a frost job, is that some sort of dipping, or is that increasing the luster through chemical means? I can think of a few ways that you could make a coin look more lustrous than it is without dipping it.... Too many dishonest people : (
I am pretty sure they didn't try to do a frost job on the coin. Some old lady owned this coin for years. I was worried about the problem area on the cheek. All done where the rubberband was over that old plyafilm (spelling I know is wrong) type 2 x 2. How come she couldn't of had that coin in the middle of the stack of 2 x 2's! I will probably just end up keeping this for my collection and never selling. It really is a good looking coin.
Follow up. Spoke with NGC this morning about this coin. They have NCS which is the coin conservation side of their business. For a minimum of 20 bucks or 4 percent of the coin value they can try to fix that damage on the cheek area. If able they can then send it off to the NGC side to get it graded. Since I have the 5 Early Bird free submissions coming with my welcome packet from the collector's society I think I will give that a try. The coin dealer I went to called this a high AU or uncirculated coin so I think 20 bucks to try to conserve the coin might be worth it if the coin comes out to be worth 400-500 bucks. Anybody ever sent a coin over to NCS to try to get it conserved?
Defintion of frost - A crystallized-metal effect seen in the recessed areas of a die, thus the raised parts of a coin struck with that die. This is imparted to dies by various techniques, such as sandblasting them or pickling them in acid, then polishing the fields, leaving the recessed areas with frost. Many of the business strike coins from this period - mid to late 1800's - had frosted devices when struck with new dies. And typically these frosted coins will bring higher prices when sold. So if an unscrupulous person were to add frost to a coin like this they could sell it to an unsuspecting buyer for a substantial premium. If you look at the coin carefully, in the lower part of the neck, you can see that it is slightly darker. Following the neck to the area just below the ear you can see where it gradually gets much lighter until there is a spot that is almost white. This is what would happen if someone were trying to alter the coin with an airbrush. You start out with a very thin coat and build it up until you have the frosted appearance. The same look can be seen on the cap, cheek, chin and in the hair. Then there is the area where it is heaviest - at the base of the ribbon. This is the spot where I think the person screwed up and decided to bag their idea. Could I be wrong ? Yes, of course. But based on the pics the whitish areas do have the appearance of having been sprayed onto the coin - thus my opinion.
Well I am going to send it out to NCS first and see what they say then hopefully it will be graded by NGC. It will be a few weeks before I get that welcome packet from the Collector's Society where I will get those 5 free early bird submissions to NGC. I am going to give the conservation and grading a shot and I will let you all know how it turns either good or bad. Thanks for everyones thoughts on this.
And if they can't you are left with a cleaned coin and the valued went west.... IMO and many others a coin that is conserve is cleaned...a cleaned coin loses its value....right now this is a nice coin....and right now its worth money...why try to mess that up? Speedy
Thanks Speedy for your thoughts. After reading the comment about the coin possibly being frosted (which I don't feel it is), I want to make sure if I do decide to sell the coin that I am not misrepresenting the coin. I did take it to a coin dealer yesterday and he didn't say anything about the coin be frosted. By shipping it out to NGC/NCS I know exactly what I got and they can say if it was ever cleaned or frosted prior to them receiving the coin. I probably wouldn't send it out if it wasn't for the comment about it being frosted. Spoke to NCS again. Process is I ship the coin out to NCS and they work on it. They send it over to NGC as a raw coin and hopefully gets graded in a NGC case if it meets their standards (good chance it won't). If it gets sent back by NGC I can elect to have NCS grade and slab it. I think I will elect to have them grade it if NGC doesn't so I don't misrepresent the coin if I decide to sell. I got a few weeks to decide what I will do. Probably will go to another coin dealer and see what he thinks of the coin and if it is frosted or not. Thanks again.
Much about this coin is of interest, especially on the reverse. Note the very weak strike on the upper part of the branch in the eagle's claw, somewhat extending to the top of UNITED. The interesting structure around the dot to the left of that branch - looks kinda like the curve of a U, doesn't it? The pitting visible from Noon to 3 O'clock. The strokes of the lettering intrigue me, also. Note the differences between the T's, and the extraordinary stroke differences in QUARTER DOLLAR. I found one (of 50) on Heritage that was similar: http://coins.heritagegalleries.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=347&Lot_No=533&src=pr That example was tripled through QUARTER DOLLAR. This coin isn't. In fact, although I saw many of the specific attributes mentioned here in the coins I've just spent an hour viewing, I couldn't find anything that quite approached the look of this coin. This is a fascinating coin. I'd go so far as to suggest it might be a Mint State coin which suffers from misaligned dies or some similar problem. Or, GDJMSP could be right, as he usually is. Either way, once I had this one, it wouldn't be leaving the collection.