Guess the authenticity of this coin!

Just wana see wat you all think. feel free to vote without commenting but I'd like to see your thoughts.
1999 - Wam - green toning on obverse...
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The toning is real - just artificially induced. The WAM just isn't. Corrosion at the A M junction does not make it a WAM.

 

But was it a WAM before the corrosion?
Also how do you indicate the difference between AT and NT toning... I can never really tell. Is it because it went from red to green and there is some color pattern it should follow like red to magenta to yellow to green or something?
Thanks for the feedback

 

In my opinion it was a WAM but now it's not because it's ruined! It's obviously an artificially toned coin, just look at it!! It looks like it was dipped in oil and placed somewhere like a window sill!! I suggest you read about natural toning, just go to the search option and look at some naturally toned coins, they don't tone that way naturally.

 

Thanks.. don't forget to cast your vote in the poll

 

I'm going to send this coin in for grading after the poll results are done.

 

The toning is considered AT by me and this is NOT a WAM. I don't need to even see the gap to tell because the reverse font doesn't match the WAM die.

 

Don't waste your money it's not the WAM and it won't grade due to the corrosion and/or funky toning.

 

okay!

 

Could I see a photo of the 'FG'?

 

I would call the toning either AT or unintentional toning due to enviromental damage.

Who are you thinking of sending it to?

 

I heated the coin to a melting temp. it was real soft metal and I poked it a bunch till I got inbetween the "A" and the "M" When I cooled it off it was green on the back.. anyways It was never a wam or NT I was just wondering if I could trick you then maybe I could trick a grading company but you guys are too smart

edit: Dudes... I was not making a fake coin to sell and trick people into thinking it was real? I'd never do anything like that.. It was just horseplay.. I wanted to see if I could trick a coin grading company.. Even if I did trick them (which wasn't likely) I would have never sold the coin to anyone saying it was a real WAM.

 

Not cool at all. Playing is one thing, but fraud is another.

 

A young "Coin Doctor" in training...

 

Compare the "FG" to the ones listed here:

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html

 

And so a scammer was born.

 

OG: You do know they put you on a watch list for this sort of thing don't you?

 

Fraudster in the progress. It makes me think about your claim as having a business?

Just what kind of business do you own/run? I will think twice about buying from you...

 

Dudes... I was not making a fake coin to sell and trick people into thinking it was real? I'd never do anything like that.. It was just horseplay.. I wanted to see if I could trick a coin grading company.. Even if I did trick them (which wasn't likely) I would have never sold the coin to anyone saying it was a real WAM.

 

Well, that's just not what you originally said. Horseplay or not, re edited to disclaim your actions and statements to the contrary, you solicited opinions/votes prior to disclosure of your intentions. There are a lot of other things you might be doing with your time learning about coins than destroying them to attempt to deceive others. Most counterfeiters (of all kinds) speak to such behavior prior to bigger deceptions. There are plenty of ways you could have gone about 'learning' about AT, perhaps without destroying a coin, by reading about it, looking at toned coins and getting experience identifying NT and AT coins. You did nothing but attempt to deceive for your own pleasure.