The Congress just passed the confrence committe report authorizing the "presidential dollar" series. That's 38 coins with Grover Cleveland counted twice. This will include such luminaries as Richard Milhous Nixon and James Buchanan. Do we really need a Millard Filmore dollar? Should President Bush veto the bill or do the people here like the idea?
Let it be known that I have always been a strong advocate for the Know-Nothing Party and a loyal and devoted supporter of Millard Fillmore. {Besides how else will we ever get a likeness of the Wizard of Oz on our coins} Sarcasm generally gets you nowhere.. but.... As for Nixon, .. I'd rather see Checkers the dog
p-coin I like the idea of the presidential dollar. I know a lot of people here collect commems,and I don't know what the difference would be, accept the would be able to be had cheaper. They could be had for face if they are indeed meant to be circulated. I would collect them just like the state quarters. Bring em on!
I'm getting tired of constant design changes on our coins. Is thinks its time to pick a design, a good design, and stick with it.
IF we're going to have a presidential coin series, I see no reason to exclude Nixon. There are reasons to not include many of our presidents. Several of them were lying, cheating scoundrels and the like and did all kinds of unscrupulous things. Personally, I don't like the idea of the series at all though.
Every president could have something said to deny him an appearance (even "saints" like Washington, Lincoln, or Roosevelt). But if we want presidents on a circulating (more or less) commemorative (and I don't), as the bill is written now we'd have to take all of them. The President doesn't have the Constitutional privilege to give what's known as a line-item veto.
Since the Statehood Quarters have come out, I've seen more small children getting into collecting than ever before (myself being one of them). I think its a great idea to change the designs up every once and a while and peak the interest of young collectors so that they can break into collecting like I did not to long ago. I mean sure they probably wont be worth much, but hey whatever works.
I would say your in the minority on this point. Up until the state quarter program our coinage had become stagenent.
While we're on the subject, what about the first 11 presidents of the United States before George Washington was inaugurated??? They were officialy presidents under the Articles of Confederation.
Yeah, I agree, most of are coins were stagenent. We need to change all their designs I think. I also think we need a liberty head coin like the first one in this thread: http://www.cointalk.org/thread11388-the-dollar-coin-that-should-have-been.html (The obverse is fantastic, but the reverve could use some editing). It needs to be a larger coin, like the quarter, half, or dollar.
Well, I'll step out into the minority camp and say that I'm looking forward to this. Old and new...I like it all (some more than others). Also remember...at one time, everything was modern crap.
He should veto it...but I can't remember him vetoing ANYTHING. I wonder what kind of "pork" is going to be included in this "bill" as well. Our dollar coins are going to look like a 3rd world banana republic who HAVE to put their presidents on coins to remind the populus who is in charge. A sad day for numismatics if he passes it. Ugly mugs on our dollar coin obverses instead of artistry and beauty. It makes as much sense as putting SBA on a dollar coin. After all, there isn't enough lip stick in the world to make that coin look "purty". I have an idea...let's vote for Liberty for president. If that is the only way to get a depiction of her back on our coins, than so be it. It's going to fail anyway. The public is too stupid to understand what a dollar coin is. Just try paying for something with a SAC and the cashier has to call the manager asking him/her if the coin is legit. The same goes with $2 bills. If any dollar coin is going to work, YOU have to scrap the paper $1. They did it in Canada and Europe and it has been a success. It saved their taxpayers millions. People griped at first, but soon adapted and all is well.
How do you come up with that number? Depending on whether Grover's split terms count as one or two, the 38th President was either Ford or Carter, both of whom are still alive. The way the system is set up, at least some of the presently living ex Presidents will qualify, so the number of coins in the series is probably in the very low 40s.
Grover will get 2 coins. NONCONSECUTIVE TERMS.--If a 9 President has served during 2 or more 10 nonconsecutive periods of service, a coin 11 shall be issued under this subsection for 12 each such nonconsecutive period of service.
I think the more we change our money the more we cheapen it. Maybe it's an irrational observation but it seems that if money continually changes, you would naturally get less attached to it. There is just something about seeing an old nickel or dime next to a new nickel or dime that says consistency. One day, I suppose we'll get a different coin or dollar bill every year to commemorate something or another. That’s when I’ll start collecting from the dark side.
Wow Meon...although our politics are as far away from one another as you can get, at least we agree on this subject. You are absolutely right. These changes do cheapen our coins and in my eyes, the depiction of every president on dollar coins cheapens the dollar coin no differantly as a 3rd world banana republic who has to depict who's currently running the country on their coins.
I forgot that! I never thought the mint would issue a 2-headed coin, per say, for circulation. I believe it is the statue of liberty. Now call it in the air...
I can not recall if Bush has veto anything since being president. I myself am not a fan of the entire proposed series.