1851 Humbert 50 dollars

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by goldbully, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. goldbully

    goldbully New Member

    Hey Guys,

    I found this site yesterday and can't get off the forums! So addicting. Learning so much from all the knowledgeable people here.

    So I was randomly searching on ebay this morning and found an auction from someone trying to sell a "1851 Humbert 50 dollars" coin. Even though I am a new collector, I remember this particular coin because of the octagonal shape from an encyclopedia I was reading about coins in the 4th grade!

    Link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1851-Humbert-...oins_USA_RL&hash=item1c14619f2f#ht_500wt_1154

    I remember wishing I had one, and was astonished at its price. So I was a bit stunned to see this coin on ebay today, but I searched around and it looks almost identical to this coin, from another site. It looks altered (to me), and that with the seller's feedback makes me think that their might be some funny business going on?

    Link: http://www.usrarecoininvestments.co...851-50-humbert-ncs-xf-details-31001_321_p.htm

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I think they are really neat. I've held one before and they are much bigger and heavier then any other gold coin I have held. None of them seem to have much strike but they do seem very rare.
    That said I'd love to have one.
     
  4. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    That is kind of strange that the RedBook shows the value of this "NO 50" specimen in Fine condition at $13,000.00. In the 2nd link you provided it shows a specimen that has been whizzed and repaired , so to me that means altered , which could account for the lower bid starting price. What does not make sense is why would anyone in their right mind leave a high value coin like that ungraded unless they suspect something is not right about it.
     
  5. goldbully

    goldbully New Member

    Yea, something doesn't add up. I emailed the seller about it and he said "I could come to his house" to look at it. I just checked his auctions, and it looks like either he or Ebay took them down.
     
  6. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    I would NEVER go to someone's house for a coin purchase ! With all the horror stories on Craigslist lately it would just be foolish to meet anyone in person other than at a bank or a government building for a transaction with thousands of dollars (pounds) involved.
     
  7. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    I was lucky enough to image a couple PCGS AU's and a MS63. What amazed me is how heavy these guys are!! There is also the one with a 50 on the reverse, also very cool.
     
  8. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    These territorial coin are the same size of J-1548, the 1877 $50 Liberty Head gold piece, designed by William Barber.
     
  9. goldbully

    goldbully New Member

    Yeaa! One time a couple years ago, I was selling a Wii that I bought for as a gift and had to return it. So I listed it on craigslist, and went to go get some lunch. It had not been 10 mins and two ladies were at my door. I was like who the heck are these people? They told me were here for the Wii and as soon as I opened my door they walked in. It was kind of weird because I thought they would just wait outside a few mins while I got it. I wasn't two concerned because they were women, but still you never know! They didn't call me, email, or anything and just decided to show up. Last time I do that!

    There was a big story about a couple who got killed recently trying to sell a ring on craigslist, not too long ago. This was after my little experience, but it was all too close for comfort. My sister uses it to get rid of stuff and get deals on, but I am always weary of the people who she may encounter. I told her she needs to always take precautions when she gets into those situations, like conspicuously have some sort of weapon in her possession. Haha!
     
  10. goldbully

    goldbully New Member

    I wish I could. Its an unforgettable piece! I still remember that day in the library when I was a kid and I saw it. I think my coin interest may have started from that day, so its nostalgic to me. Some sort of infatuation with coins and american history got triggered by it some how. Who knows, but I am sure glad it did!
     
  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    The unspoken rules of direct home contact have been lost. The idea that you can just walk right in without an INVITATION is shocking to those who remember a more refined era where such niceties of respect alongside cordiality kept everyone on a friendly and non threatening level.

    I faced this very thing from a young woman who was obviously involved with a door to door marketer who preached getting in the door to make the sale. She asked if the lady of the house was home and I chose not to offer any information. She grabbed the door and attempted to walk right by me to see for herself and I was shocked and unwilling to be moved. I told her to leave and asked her where her solicitation permit was (required in our city) and she started shouting at me. I stood there as she attempted to go to the neighbors and I followed her since my neighbors are longtime acquaintances (single women) who would be scared of such tactics. She started screaming that I was a racist (she happened to be black) and said she was going to call the police and I told her if she didn't, I would!

    It took me a while to conclude her actions may have simply come from ignorance of the long established norms of behavior when visiting other peoples homes,
     
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