Flying Eagle Pattern Coin (1854)

This is something you dont see very often (at least I dont!)



1854 Pattern Flying Eagle Cent.

High bid is $760 so far ... Auction ends in 5 hours

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180534184044&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I'm not bidding on it ... but just curious what you all think.

 

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Wow thats sweet.

 

Its a beauty. I wish one day the flying eagle cent would return as a business strike. I like the old buzzard cents...

 

It appears to be on a large cent planchet too. Cool.

 

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I'm confused. Is this a fake? The only pattern coins I know of in that series were minted in 1856.

 

It appears to be from the same dies as the J-164 pictured on pg 351 of the 2010 Redbook which was coined in bronze. It was a small cent pattern. I'm speculating it is the same dies coined in copper.

 

Crack out the red book there is a couple under the Patterns at the back of the book. This one is real and certainly looks nice.

 

Though he may be in a world of hurt as he has 2 pattern flying eagles a 1854 and 1855 up for auction and the on you linked too was supposed to be a 1855 PR62(wrong pictures). You know some sleazbayer will demand the 1854 for his winning bid

 

If you want to see some wicked nice Flying Eagle coins try Eagle Eye Rare Coins

 

Strange mistake to make for someone selling that caliber of coins - have to wonder about this seller and the coins.

 

It went for $2,113.88. The other went for $3,049.00. That guy sold some serious coins tonight. It totaled just shy of $30,000.

 

http://uspatterns.com/j163p189.html a little more info...

 

Any insights into why he would choose ICG to grade/authenticate that?

 

BBed elsewhere I suspect.

 

amazing. anybody got a proof flying eagle laying around? lol

 

wow, love it.

 

That is one of the cooler patterns. I've always liked it.

 

He either bought it like that, or like majorbigtime said, the other TPG's didn't grade it.
He might've also sent it in, for not the two reasons above, but because he thought ICG graded coins higher, and he might be able to get more money, but anybody who knows that first bit of information should know that wouldn't be the case.

 

PCGS and NGC don't grade all varieties or patterns, so that MIGHT be a reason to have gone with ICG at the time.

 

I believe PCGS and NGC both grade this pattern.

They are also fairly loose when it comes to old cleanings on these coins, in my opinion and experience. That said, PCGS (and to a lesser extent NGC) is a bit wary of the blue color on copper, and I wonder if that's why this coin is in an ICG holder.