The old switcheroo was pulled on me

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tmoneyeagles, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    eBay Seller ultimatecoin, pulled the switcheroo on me.

    I bought a coin from him, which happened to be toned. He sent a coin to me, with a different toning pattern, very splotchy and very ugly that included a spot that the first coin didn't have. I said, right when I opened the package, "I don't remember buying this"
    I went upstairs to leave feedback for the seller, when I looked at the auction again, the cert #'s didn't match.

    He has 100% feedback, and his two neutral/negatives were shipping, "lost coin" problems.

    I emailed the seller, asking him to send me the right coin.
    I will tell you guys how it goes. Hopefully this was an honest mix up, but my gut says it wasn't, and my gut also says he could be doing this to others, who can't recognize one coin from another...
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Keep us posted Travis. Hopefully it's a mistake, but if not, then better to shy away from this guy. Is there a return privilege?
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Don't let him get away with it. He probably did it intentionally.

    A few years back, a seller who turned out to be a magistrate from Tennessee tried to pull a switch on me. He hemmed and hawed and when I finally threatened to file a complaint with the Tennessee States Attorney and the U.S. Attorney, he gave me a refund.

    Chris
     
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  5. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    I'd get my refund and file a complaint anyway to teach the scumbag a lesson.
     
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  6. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I would think the chances are alot greater that it's an honest mistake.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Yes, 14 day money back.
    I want him to pay shipping both ways though, for this coin, and the actual coin.

    Here is the coin I bought:
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    Here is the coin I received:
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  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It would have been difficult to prove without the coin as evidence. I was just happy to get my $950 back. I told him if he gave me a refund that I would post positive feedback for him. This was back when many sellers wouldn't leave the buyer feedback until they had posted positive feedback for the seller. Anyway, once his check cleared, I posted negative feedback warning others that he switched coins on me and tried to renege on his refund policy. When he saw my negative feedback, he whipped off an e-mail complaining that I broke my promise. My response to him? "Just like you did, I lied!"

    Chris
     
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  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Travis,
    I am presently going through exactly the same thing all be it with a less expensive coin. This is not the first time and I doubt it will be the last time. Every other time as well as this time, the seller has been more than cooperative and I was out nothing and usually cam out ahead. Do not panic before you have a problem.

    BTW, I have also sent the wrong things twice. I gladly corrected the problem.
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Now that is something Chris.
    I don't know that I could ever do that, I left negative feedback once and I really don't want to do it again. Everything is riding on his reply.
    If he says he won't do anything because the coin in the photo is no longer his (he sold it), I'm going to leave a negative feedback and keep the coin. He could offer to do quite a few things though. If he has the coin, he can ask that we switch coins, and he pays shipping for both coins, or we each pay for the coin we have. He could offer to give me a full refund, and I can send coin back, with either myself or him paying shipping.
    I'm not really seeing how he will get a positive feedback out of this one...we'll just wait and see what he says
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If push comes to shove and there really is a problem, return the coin through PayPal - I hope you used PayPal. I assure you that returning it through PayPal will get you money back including the shipping you paid although you will have to pay for your return shipping. If he does give you problems, he definitely deserves negative feedback. BTW, this is why eBay stopped negative feedback from sellers.
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I did use PayPal. I've never been put in this situation before, but I think I am well armed to handle it ;)
    I'm very anxious to see his response on this one, but not panicking. This was a cheap purchase, which I planned to flip, and should've had no problems doing so as that is a pretty dime in the photo. I also had another idea of what to do with it.
    I can't do a whole lot with this thing, and I've heard of many cases of people getting their refund through PayPal, then keeping the coin.
    Just wait and see mode now...
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I would be very interested in hearing your stories of "getting their refund through PayPal, then keeping the coin." since they require delivery confirmation before refunding. I know that does not mean it is impossible, but difficult.
     
  14. mlmummert

    mlmummert Junior Member

    Personally trying to get your refund and keep the coin too is pretty shady, sort of like sending a different coin than the one pictured on the auction.
     
  15. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I've heard quite a few actually, all the times I've heard of one, it was the case of an extremely unresponsive seller.
     
  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I wasn't planning on doing that.
    If I get my refund, the coin will be sent back to him. That was just another point I brought up in things that can be done.
     
  17. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    You were taken. The first coin in your post, is not the coin that belongs in that NGC serial numbered slab. Its the one you did receive.

    Check it out for yourself: http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=3226614-016
     
  18. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    WOW!
    I'm in shock on that one, so what did the seller do?
    The coin in 016 is my coin, but my coin is in a slab with 018 as the ending number.

    I did the look up on the slab ending in 018, and look what I found!
    http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=3226605-018
    It is the same coin!

    There is no chance that the coin in the eBay auction is what the coin I received, right?!
     
  19. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    That's what I would think as well!! Sometimes it gets really busy when selling coins and you get similiar buyers names, coins or any combination therein and a mix up occurs. Hopefully that's all it was! good luck
     
  20. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    There is no chance it was an honest mistake now.
    The coins in both slab look ups, by NGC, are the coin I received and the coin pictured, I didn't receive.
    I don't think this is a 'photo' thing either. The coins look nothing alike. I think he might've taken a coin, cropped it to fit the slab of the coin he was trying to sell, so it would sell better.
     
  21. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Ouch! Nevermind, give him hell and kick the buttsky!! :D
     
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