Max Grade - No Date

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Evorlor, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    What is the maximum grade for a coin where the date is not readable?

    According to the ANA Grading Standards book, AG-3 has the date readable. Could you have a G or even VG coin without a readable date?

    If you cannot read the date on a coin, is it pretty much worthless? Is there any way to determine the date on a coin that is not readable?
     
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  3. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    well, some coins can be determined by diagnostics like large cents or bust coinage, type I buffalo nickels, type I SLQs, etc, but unless it is an ultra rare coin (i.e. 1916 SLQ) then at best it is a P-1 or FR-2 and carries little to no value.
     
  4. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    If its nikel-copper, acid will reveal the date.
     
  5. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    I am not sure I understand. Do you mean stuff growing on it?
     
  6. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    What he means is that if the coin is made of copper-nickel, acid will eat away the soft metal on the coin from wear and reveal the harder metal underneath (the date). Examples of copper-nickel coins are:

    - Nickels (Buffs, V's, Jeff's, Shield)
    - 1959-1964 IH Cents
    - 1956-1958 FE Cents
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A coin without a readable date is not gradeable.
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    famous last words eh grandpa? what happens if a coin is minted without dates then?
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If it is a one year type it is gradable. But as mentioned Pr-1 or Fr-2 is about the best grade it can get.
     
  10. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    So I could acid date early IHC and FE?
     
  11. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    What type of acid? Just nail polish remover?
     
  12. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    Nail polish remover is actually acetone, not a acid. You should buy a bottle of nic-a-date , try a coin supply store or ebay.
     
  13. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    Hmmm...what would nail polish remove do?
     
  14. Evorlor

    Evorlor Member

    I remember there being some household thing that makes a coin spotless. Anyone know what that supply is?
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Then it is catalogued as an ND (not dated) coin and is gradeable to the bottom of the range. Of course ypou pretty much have to go back to medieval times to find coins without dates on them.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No you cannot, it does not work on copper coins. It only works on nickels - no other coins.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Screw up the coin. It should never be used on coins.

    There is pretty much a limitless number of them, but they will all ruin the coin too.
     
  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

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    gotcha !!!

    i am so evil sometimes :D ( its only with you so its not that bad )

    Ladies gentleman and grandpa i now present some coins with no dates on them most of them are from 2006.

    now are you saying GD that they will b treated badly and moved to the bottom of the range just because they dont have a date.

    evil evil TPG's

    now who here wants to date these coins? :D
     
  19. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    P.S grandpa we still love you :D
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Who got who ? You are really so easy to bait :rolleyes:

    Were you a fish, your mouth would be full of hooks :D
     
  21. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    grandpa look at the coins do you see any dates on them? you might recognize the people on them though. i am sure you traveled with them when you were younger.

    now you are telling us that the TPG will penalize grades for them. that is so rediculous :D
     
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