impossible seated liberty dollars + newps S167

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lugia, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    so ive been looking into seated liberty halves and dollars so i could get a nice one for my collection. ive seen some nice halves that caught my attention but what is the deal with dollars. if i find them at all its as if theyve all been cleaned and scratched or theyre XF+ and out of my price range. am i being paranoid or are there problem free VG-F grade ones out there?

    also picked up these 2 large cents for 12.60
    S-167 and a dateless classic head.
     

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not a bad price for the large cents.

    As for the seated dollars, they are pretty much expensive no matter what grade or "problems" they have. I have a 1872 VF20 I picked up for about $400. It has alot of contact marks but it isnt cleaned or scratched. I was happy to get it for the price & grade.

    Couple at the link below if interested...

    http://www.empirecoins.net/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=94
     
  4. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    yea something like that 1846 they have listed would be perfect without them surface problems. just a tough type to find.
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I've got two SL Dollars for my type set.
    One is an 1846 No Motto in XF-45.
    The other is an 1872 Motto in AU-50.
    Plenty good for my type set; no upgrades anticipated.
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    SL dollars tend to come in batches it seems. There are times draped busts are much easier to find, then a small hoard will hit the market for a bit. Sometimes its not a matter of money but opportunity. A good looking SL dollar always has a home, and most people who collect them are "strong" collectors, meaning the type who buy and hold on to them until they die.

    You are lucky. Ancients is even worst. I have had the money for one of 3 Byzantines I have been looking for for over a year now. They are not rare, just "not for sale right now" lol.
     
  7. lackluster

    lackluster Junior Member

    Alot a fakes on the Seated dollars. I would get it from a dealer you trust or certified.

    Lack
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I've been looking for an original-looking XF/AU seated dollar that appeals to me for five years. I've yet to find one.

    To the OP, is the classic-head attributed? Do you have a larger photo of the reverse?
     
  9. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    no and ill try to make a better photo when i get back.
     
  10. Steelfirebug

    Steelfirebug Junior Member

    you guys are making me drool, 1872 is the yaer of coins I collect in,mostly. 2 mentions of an 1872 SL dollar in the same thread. I'm green ;D
     
  11. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    alright this is the best i could do on the reverse of the large cent. this camera cant focus at all...

    steel if their posts about having them is making you jealous i supposed you better not return to this thread. i got it for 360. i might of overpayed a little but considering what a wide margin of them look like (even when graded problem free) im very satisfied with it.
    the black spot on the motto is just some dirt.
     

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  12. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    i got one more question. as i was looking at ANA descriptions id say VF25 on this. sounds good right? but when i look at photograde i get the feeling this coin could grade VF35 even XF40. based on my picture above for the SLD the only weak point is that shield and looking at the PCGS website i see a total mix of details for each assigned grade. what do you guys think about the price i payed 360 and the possible grade?
     
  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Well my 1872 I got was a F12 and it didnt surprise me cause mine has alot of hits on the front where the reverse eagle looks exactly like yours. I'd say yours is about VF30 or so. Hard to tell from that pic if the coin was dipped at one time or so.
     
  14. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    IMO it's in the VF-20 to -30 range.
    At VF-20 your price is good/very good.
    And as the grade gets higher you are totally very good.
     
  15. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    i dont get the feeling that it was dipped. theres bits of dark toning/luster around most devices.

    thanks for your opinions guys.
     
  16. blsmothermon

    blsmothermon Member

    I share your pain on the Seated Dollar. My 1854 type set is to blame. I acquired coins starting with an 1854 dime, then 1854 cent, and all the rest of the 1854 coinage unintentionally building a type set. (the 1854's just happened to be from all different sources) Now all I have left to the set, besides the gold, is the Dollar. In G-4 condition the book on it is $1,000. Talk about dead-ending a type set. :)
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think the classic is an 1810 S-283 or 284, and I'm leaning towards the 284. The plastic of the 2X2 is interfering some.
     
  18. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    took it out of the cheap flip. the more i take pics the more it all looks the same.
     

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  19. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    No, you're not paranoid; you're right on the money.

    For whatever reason, seated dollars are very, very tough to find. I'm not sure what the deal is, but I know it's true.

    Even examples certified by top TPGs are almost always cleaned or otherwise unattractive. You may look a long, long time before you find one you like.

    The three US Types which I find inordinately difficult to track down are liberty cap half cents, capped bust quarters (pre-1830s large size), and seated dollars.

    Tough, tough, tough to find nice ones. Be patient, wait, save up. When you find one you like, pull the trigger.
     
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