Superbly Toned? Am I missing something?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tmoneyeagles, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-D-Buffalo-..._Individual&hash=item5188e90921#ht_500wt_1154

    In doing my daily/weekly ritual of looking through eBay for toned coins to buy/flip, I stumbled across this Buffalo Nickel.
    This dealer claims the coin to be superbly toned.
    I'm very good at deciphering what a coin will look like in hand, and have done so from crappy pics on numerous occasions.

    BUT I'm having a hard time seeing toning on these pics, and I just don't see how there will be any toning in hand, those photos look alright.
    I'll admit I see some slight blue, but I don't even think it is enough to call it toning, if you have to stare for a few minutes to see a slight difference.

    What do you guys think, is there something in the pics that can't be seen,
    or
    Is the seller just passing it off as toned, hoping it will sell for more? (That is my guess)
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It is toned, it just isn't colorfully toned.
     
  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    But, superbly?
    When I hear superb, I'm thinking of something a tad different. This doesn't really fit the definition.
     
  5. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Maybe it's just colorful language... :goofer: or an artifact from another listing... nearly every item they have listed uses some catchy adjective but the images fail to deliver much evidence of the seller's choice of diction.

    And what is "Lots of Blast!" LOL!
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    On ebay ? Tell me you're kidding.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    If I had a dollar for every time an e-bay seller was overly optimistic in describing their for-sale coin, I'd be a rich man.
     
  8. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Trust me, it isn't like I don't know about eBay, Doug you know that.
    I just thought it was sorta interesting that this seller called this thing superbly toned, and I'm not really seeing any toning at all.
    NOTHING, surprises me on eBay.
     
  9. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    Sometimes you have to twirl nickels around in the light to catch all of the toning
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    One would think a seller would take some shots that showcase the toning though, lots of sellers don't, which is good for flippers.
    Never ceases to amaze me at some coins that are beautifully toned with absolute terrible pics.

    Although I don't think this is an example.
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Believe it or not, there are many collectors who would classify this type of toning as superb. Those that shy away from wildly rainbow toned examples in fear that the coins are AT gravitate towards the originality offered by coins like this one. Light pastel hues of ice blue and peach which are extremely common on Buffalo Nickels are less likely to be AT and rarely demand price premiums. While I don't like this particular coin as the details are terrible and the luster is non-existent, a fully struck and lustrous example with the same color scheme would be an extremely nice coin and the term "superb" may actually apply.

    For Example:

    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1140&Lot_No=429
     
  12. PeacePeople

    PeacePeople Wall St and stocks, where it's at

    His feedback is clean, and if you look at this store or other listings there is a lot of liberal usage of adjectives like, exquisette, superb and the like. They do look like a clean seller without digging.
     
  13. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Paul, I think I have an easier time calling that superb... ;)
     
  14. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Not easy to tell from photo. But I think this dealers day job is a used car salesman
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Heck - you would only need a penny to make to the Bill Gates level. :)
     
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Granted, but I still submit that the toning is extremely nice, albeit, not superb. The real problem with the coin is the strike, the luster, and the photo.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As you said earlier Paul, as did I, it's definitions - everybody's is different.
     
  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    if i had 10 cents for every coin that gd picks out problems from i would be richer :D
     
  19. blsmothermon

    blsmothermon Member

    This seller has a '36-S listed also which has just the slightest shade of toning on it. Apart from the photos the listings are identical. It just looks like a careless cut/paste job on the listings.
     
  20. Player11

    Player11 Bullish

    Describing Rare Coins on the Bay is subjective. I don't see a problem with the sellers description. There is no substitute with just a scan and in this instance there could be a description paste job that needs edititing. Quite frankly, its a rather nice coin. I have seen people in the industry define any non brilliant coin as toned.

    I have never understood why people in these forums want to nit pick sellers listings on the bay or take some derogotory cheap shot at someone they don't even know ("used car salesman"). In interfacing with certain individuals at shows from my table who have derogotory comments about dealers or nit pick coins they have no budget or interest in anyhow, my take is they mainly are essentially broke. When the BS starts, its time for them to leave my table. The people with money look at the coin and decide for themselves if they will be acquiring it or not and could care less about some sellers description. If price is an issue, they keep their mouth zipped and will lay their money on the table and make a counter offer.
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    He's probably describing the luster .
    rzage
     
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