Todays Newp U grade

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Kevo, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    I just got the cent in the mail today, and quite frankly i am ashamed at my photo grading skills. I will be the first to admit that this is not a series i am familiar with grading, and furthermore i owe some apologies for my reaction to your honest opinions. Tmoney, Badthad, good eyes. The sellers pics hide some major hairlines from cleaning. It has also been dipped too heavily IMO. I was going to return this one, but i think i will hold onto it as a reminder of a lesson learned. I have purchased over a hundred coins online over the years, but this time i am eating a crow sandwich. I ignored my better judgement, and scorned your opinions. Luckily it was only a 25 dollar lesson, but the pride factor probably cost me a little more :(. I will post some pics this weekend when i get a chance.
     
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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Don't sweat it ;)
    I'm not one to hold grudges over anything really.

    I've seen thousands of coins on the computer, and then with a few I buy them and see them in hand, you learn to develop a skill for knowing what a coin will look like from photos. When you are in front of a computer as long as I have been, you find lots of different ways to determine different things, although even with all that practice, deciphering what a coin will look like in hand or will grade relies heavily on the quality of the photos, and this time the quality of the photos were poor, you thought you didn't see something we thought we did.
    Buying coins online can be an unpredictable and risky business.
    Lesson learned about photo-grading and not at a bad price at all :) People have thousand dollar mistakes...just be lucky this isn't one of those.
     
  4. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    Well here are my pics of the same coin. You can see the polishing marks clear as day. I'd call it whizzed. Too bad since this was probably a decent coin before it was cleaned. Sellers pics actually catch the color a little better. BTW seller made good on the deal. Now i see how these guys can do this and still keep 100% feedback.







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  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    yeah, big difference between the two sets of photos. you see this quite a bit on the bay. Thats why you should buy from someone you trust or with a good return policy.
     
  6. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    Nice looking '09 VDB, detail-wise. Surfaces on the initial pic look like it has been dipped out or polished... hard to tell with the lighting, unfortunately.
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    You are man of character. Not many folk would have the guts to come back....I give you props! ;)

    Really too bad about that poor coin. It was a high grade coin before some idiot polished it. Not sure about the reverse, it looks pretty original. Those lines appear to be die polish lines (not silver polish). They do not appear to be on the devices as best as I can tell. Looks to me like someone had it in a Whitman and just went down the line with a cloth and some polish. Another one bites the dust. :(
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    To say that the seller juiced his pictures is putting it mildly.



    Wow, what a crook.
     
  9. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    I'm afraid they're correct on their assessment. The reverse is clearly evident of the amount of wear and the brightness of the coin for that amount of wear is not consistant. It was cleaned, rather harshly. You can also notice cleaning on the obverse, off Lincoln's shoulder under liberty.
     
  10. WashQuartJesse

    WashQuartJesse Member Supporter

    The hair jumped out at me right away.
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Be very careful with angled photos. When done by experienced e-bay sellers, they are almost always done with the intent of hiding problems.

    On the bright side, I presume you can return the coin, so just count this up as an inexpensive lesson in the follies of buying raw coins on eBay with angled photos.

    Live and learn....Mike
     
  12. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    Thanks BadThad ! I'm here to share my experiences and learn from others. This one goes to show just how much you can hide in photos, as well as how good some of you are at spotting it. I certainly learned a lot from this one.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Kevo, Speaking only for myself, I don't consider myself any "better" than you or anyone else -- perhaps just a bit more experienced. :) Take care...Mike
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Mike, there are many here who speak the same as you. If not for the patience and knowledge generously supplied by folks such as you I daresay people would have left these forums ages ago. :)
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    That's why we all come here my friend. To live and learn from each other. I learn something everyday from the people here and on other forums. That's the beauty of the web!

    I'm going to teach you another thing...hehehehehe....you can change your title from "Junior Member" to whatever you like in your control panel. :D
     
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