Direct Fit VS Ring Type -- Air tite holders

You can do the same, contact them and support your argument disclaiming my post. There's no point disclaiming anything if you can't or won't do it yourself. I await the supporting evidence to be corrected.

 

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I guess it's all subjective aesthetics, but I'm not a fan of the ring holders. For one thing, I like seeing the edge of my coins. Secondly, I can place the air-tites in the display cards to get that attractive backdrop for those special coins. To each his/her own, but I want to see my coin edges and there is at least a question about the long-term effects of the rings, so my choice is direct-fit.

 

I thought he meant the perimeter

 

Never suggested you'd lie. Just asked for supporting evidence to back up your post. Simple as that.

 

That's my point about your post Doug, I don't just take anyone's word for it.

I am asking you to provide the information you seem to have but are unwilling to divulge since you've stepped in here and refuted a post, which I will admit, may be incorrect. Your status of authority around here just isn't enough to support your word in this regard. Instead of sharing the knowledge that you are apparently graced with, you're sidestepping the leg work of defending your post that disclaimed mine by expecting me and others to simply take your word for it. No sir. If you know this guy or have a link to an older post he made on CT, them please do share it with the thread. If you need the 'horse's mouth' to back you up, then please request him to do so again as he once seems to have done it in the past.

I'm still searching for who the manufacture may be, or what individual owns the patent or licensing rights to Air-Tite Holders or a company who owns the rights to make them. I would appreciate that information if anyone knows. Thanks.

 

Im confused.

 

Don't be. Select the type of holder: direct or ring type you prefer and the color of ring you like the look of against your coins if you go the ring route and try them out. If your coins are so rare and valuable that Air-Tite holder pose an unknown risk to the security and value of the coins, then perhaps those coins should be certified by NGC or PCGS for their quality or guarantee of security.

 

Then let it be known that you cannot and refuse to back up your statement with any prior knowledge or proof on this topic because you simply expect people to take your word for it. Let it be known that you withhold and do not share knowledge that you claim to have on this topic despite the signature line that accompanies all of your posts.

You chose to refute my post so you must provide the evidence to overturn it. Given the amount of time you've spent deferring that responsibility, you might have found the old thread from the "guy", or provided the information you claim to have to support your intervention of my, potentially erroneous, post.

I'm not saying I'm right, but I'd like you to back up your side of the argument.

 

Doug, it's not gonna be that easy for you to simply flip this on me. You tried to refute my post, and you continue to refuse to provide any evidence to support your statement. I have at least twice already admitted that I may be wrong in stating that that was the manufacturers web site and I await you to prove me so. If you don't care, then maybe you shouldn't interject yourself into the conversation, especially if it contradicts your own motto.

 

doug would you go with white or black

 

Doug, never say never! This was 10 years ago, possibly even more when this occurred. Just like so many of the PVC-laden flips that were still floating around in the marketplace, can you guarantee with absolute certainty that everything back then was made of inert material. Do you think I enjoyed shelling out $600 for the conservation?

The point I was trying to make is that if anyone elects to use them, it would be advisable to check on the coins every once in a while.

Chris

 

Cripes sakes guys. I'm glad I am not in the middle of this one. Anyway what's so hard about finding out about this? Air-tites were developed by Norman Therrian. The "real" company is in North Adams, MA.

As far as turning coins black, air tites are not really air tight. Oxidation "could" have taken place but why just on the edge I don't know.

 

Even if something is advertised as inert, I doubt anything really is over a long period of time (i.e. everything reacts with something, albeit some to a lesser degree). Why have something extra touching the coin when it's not necessary, especially if you think the direct fit looks better.

 

...............and because it was just the edge of the coin that was affected is why I suspect the accent ring.

Chris

 

North Adams, Massachussets. The company is family owned and air tites were developed by Norm Therrian back some 25 or 30 years ago.

 

Thanks Victor.

The site that I linked to and claimed was the manufacturer's web site (wrongly according to Doug) is also in North Adams, MA. It says so right on the bottom of their homepage and again on their 'contact us' page:

Air-Tite Holders Inc.
1560 Curran Highway,
North Adams, MA 01247-3900

(800) 521-1248 FAX
(413) 664-2733
sales@airtiteholders.com

I have looked up this company on the BBB.org but did not find any information so I suppose the BBB has no complaints filed in the recent past for the company behind this web site.

I have researched the domain name to see who it is registered to on GoDaddy.com, and it IS registered to Scott Therrien, whom I think it is safe to suggest is related to the product developer, Norman Therrien.

Now, this web site may be the designated company that the developers of Air-Tite Holders created but not the web site for the manufacturer, or the physical plant that has the technology for making the holders. This web site may be owned and operated by the product developers as the first point of distribution after the holders are manufactured. This web site has a 'Dealer log-in' portal at the top of their page. I suppose this is where most dealers and institutions place wholesale orders. The site is also set up with a retail function for individuals and that is the face of the company that one first encounters at this URL.

Perhaps, Air-Tite Holders Inc. is not the manufacturer but merely the product developer and product patent owner who is the registered owner of this web site domain address. Perhaps this person or company licensed their product patent to a manufacturer who delivers finished products back to the developer who then acts as a wholesaler or distribution point and so on through this web site (company), thus servicing dealers and other organizations who buy wholesale from Air Tite Holders Inc.

I do not profess to know fully how Air Tite Holders Inc. are organized as a business nor do I know of their full business function, but from all other web sites that I have so far encountered regarding Air Tite holders, this web site, is the closest to the maker of the holders I have found.

I had done my research prior to Doug's interruption today and I am simply requesting that Doug divulge his own supporting evidence to back up his 'word' on the matter. I am open to Doug providing evidence of his argument to set things straight under his understanding and I am open to changing my language in reference to this web site as something other than 'manufacturer' if that eases and clarifies our collective understanding of this topic. I for one would like to know for sure what I am referring to so as to avoid making a false statement about this in the future. I have solicited Doug for help on this all day long, and to no avail as of this writing.