1883 nickel, No luster?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hunt1, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    So today at a coin show i bought a NGC ms61 V nickel (no cent) for like 35 bucks. Im not a expert or very good at identifying these coins but it just doesnt have alot of luster....but its graded ms 61 by ngc?

    The details are all there but the color is a little darker with not alot of luster? Is this because of the nickel changing color over time or what?
     
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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    It's an MS-61 so it must have some problem(s).
    It just can't have wear.
    Maybe the problem is loss of Mint shine.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Pictures would help. Usually unless really dark you can still notice luster on a MS61.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    61 is an odd grade. I'll bet there's something you're missing. My first thought since you mentioned a lack of luster is an over-dipping. I'd like to see the coin in pictures or preferably in-hand before saying anything else.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :kewl:A photo would help.
     
  7. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I'm going to posit that over-dipping is not the problem.
    Why?
    Because I'm going to trust NGC enough not to grade a coin in that sort of condition.
     
  8. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Not the best pics:

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    Hunt1 Active Member

  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Need bigger pictures. I think I see some muted luster, but it could just be my eyes and the little pictures.
     
  11. PFCBEGA

    PFCBEGA Staff Numismatist HA.com

    Ms61, is a very odd grade indeed, you'll often find AU58's that have way more eye appeal than a 61
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's right. MS-61 is at the low end for uncirculated coins. It essentially is a technically uncirculated with LOTS and LOTS of marks. It might look like it was found in a parking lot. For uncirculated coins only MS-60 is worst than MS-61.

    On the other hand, an AU-58 coin is the highest grade for About Uncirculated coins. And AU-58 coin will show slight wear but will have full luster and very few marks with very clean fields. I would generally rather have an AU-58 over an MS-61.
     
  13. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    From what I can make out of it, it doesn't look bad for a 61. Would be nice to see why it was graded MS-61 though. Thats a Hint Hunt...
     
  14. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    A hint for...? Higher, lower, re-grade? what do you mean lol?
     
  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Hint would mean better, larger pictures
     
  16. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    This is like the best i can do my camera stinks, click on it for full size:

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  17. bbqman

    bbqman Smoke em if you got em

    Check your resolution setting. In an earlier post you mentioned you have a 3.2 megapixel Sony. The max resolution for a 3.2 mp camera is 2048x1536 - your pics are only 640x480 which is most likely the default and lowest res setting. Info should be in the manual but it is most likely changed via a menu option. Should be easy to figure out. Also see if the camera has a macro setting for taking close up shots.
     
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I agree. It is really hard to tell from the photos posted, but I think there is a thick layer of nickel gray toning that is muting the luster of the coin.
     
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