I know I have seen this somewhere but can not find the answer right now.When did the mint start adding the COA's to the Proof Sets?
I'm not exactly sure when they started. The sets I have go back to 1959 and they all have COA'a except for the period 1970-1985 when they did not include COA's in proof sets.
Thanks guys, that's what I needed to know. I sold some sets on eBay a few weeks ago and the customer is mad because they didn't have COA's. Now I can be confident that I am correct when I tell him that COA's were not included with the sets he bought.
Howdy Scatter - Welcome to the Forum !! The older Proof sets did not have a COA per se - but there was a printed card included by the mint in the packaging. It pretty much just stated that these are Proof coins, specially prepared and struck - blah blah blah. Sometimes the cards were orange, sometimes green if memory serves.
Great, menas my 1972 proof set isn't missing a COA, it just never had one. Basically got this set because saw someone on eBay selling it cheap, lol... there's still quite a few proof sets that can be had for under $10 out there, especially ones from the 70's it seems.
In my one set of proof sets from 1955-1964 I'm trying to get the cards with them...I know it isn't something rare but I think it makes the set more complete to have them just like they were sold....so far I'm only missing 55-58 flat packs...and I'm watching... Speedy
c.o.a. and box what can the dealers officially put three pricing for modern coins. such as proof set, silver proof set, mint set, modern commemorative, american eagle series, modern special packaging. three pricing such (a) as very new, just like receiving from the u.s.mint. never been open. well preserved by the owner. (b) coin with original capsule, box or sleeves, c.o.a. (3) missing original box or sleeves, c.o.a. , dirty and scraching box, have black spot and toned. pricing a, b and c. just like we priced ms 65, ms 67 and ms 70.
I actually have a 1986 proof set that has a COA pretty similar to what's used currently, so I know they're at least that old.
For one reason...that isn't how the market works...you can have a nice coin just like it came from the mint in MS67 and on that is missing the box and COA in MS69....it would be silly to charge less for the better one... Speedy
Actually not sure, as it's currently in Christmas wrap... I bought as a gift for my brother, who was born that year. Just from memory know it has information regarding the minting process of proofs and the details of the designs of each of the coins. Can't say for sure whether or not it actually has the words "Certificate of Authenticity" on it, but can get back on that after Christmas... I am 100% sure though that that same year the Statue of Liberty two piece commemorative set (that has the clad half dollar and silver dollar) does have a Certificate of Authenticity as I've actually seen it in the set my father has. And I know the 2000 and 2005 had them... and look very similar to what I remember the 1986 having, but whether the '86 actually has what can strictly be called a COA, I'll have to wait until the 25th to tell you.
I pulled out a 1987 Proof set and looked...its not a COA...its a Proof Coin Set Specifications Speedy
I pulled out all of my original Proof sets and started looking for COA's. The first cardboard insert that I found was in 1986 but it wasn't a COA, it was a "Specifications" card for each denomination included in the Proof set. It's a purple-ish color to match that year's packaging and is titled for 1986. This was similarly duplicated in the 1987, 1988 and 1989 Proof sets as well, with only the date on the insert changing. The first official COA that I found was in 1990, which is still part of the purple Proof sets era. The COA looks just like the 1986-1989 "Specifications" cards except for two items: 1. The COA information is written on the reverse of the specifications insert 2. This cardboard insert is not dated. This is the exact same COA used from 1990-1993, with none being dated and all the same purple-ish color. The year that started the COA as we know it today started in the first green Proof set, 1994. This was a white folding insert with the COA information in the middle and the specification information on the back. Going back to the earlier proof sets, they had a thin paper insert from the Mint Superintendent explaining that the Proof set had been carefully inspected and that any defects or scratches that may appear to be on the coin are actually on the polyethelene-coated cellaphane. This started with the 1958 Proof set and stopped with the 1964 year. The 1960-1964 insert also included information about tarnishing that could occur to the coins. But, of course, these were far from a COA. The last insert that I can find until 1986 is for the 1965 Special Mint set explaining the new clad coins. Hope this helps. :high5:
