Granted the photos are a little out of focus, but from what I see you are being to hard on that coin. I grade it MS65 and it would seem that you thought it was a lock at MS65 with a chance at MS66 based on your buy price of $200.
Lehigh96, I bought it off E-bay about three years ago. That was one of about three things I ever bought on the Bay. I looked up NTC, they didnt seem bad on the face of things. So I bought it expecting to see a MS-67 coin. I got burned. I buy my coins from a wide range of venues and there is always some risk involved bad lighting at a show Etc. I win all the time cherry picking morgans from dealer stock. So its just a mistake I made. Somebody mentioned NTC and I wanted to warn them. Thanks for posting, Steve
Haha I forgot that one. And good call on that I just won this auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130403131489&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
You have some extremely sharp details on that coin. Although I'd question it being a MS62, that is one of the hardest series in numismatics grade, PCGS might give that coin a 58 while NGC gives it a 62, along with ICG, and if you send it to ANACS you might get a 63, you could get a 61. With coins like that, all TPG are very inconsistent, and it is pretty rare that if you send a coin to another company in a different slab, the grades will hardly ever be the same.
OK I know this is an old thread but it had information I was looking for. I saw a TPG I have never seen before on a site that I was grabbing some Ikes on. So I did a best offer and then counter offered the counter offer. Either way I got this.. Now I bet it is not a MS63 for sure and after this thread, I would guess MS60 max. However maybe I will get lucky. Ask was $20, I got it for $12.50, purely on the 'want to see it' reason.
Hate to be the one to say it, but that was not a good deal. These 64's are so common that they're worth about a buck or two above melt, and that's about what 7 or 8 dollars? Well anyways, "There's no such thing as a mistake only happy accidents."
Oh no guys, do not misunderstand me, it was not a good deal at $12.50, I just wanted it and it was in a TPG I did not have. By lucky, maybe it is a MS63 and not a MS60.
There is no rule against posting to or re-opening an old thread. But nor is it uncommon for somebody to comment about it being done. Personally, I think it's a good idea to revisit old threads because - "the answers lie waiting in the echoes of time".
Wouldn't it be easier for all of us if they made a new thread? I get your point, and I know there were a ton of good poster's back in older days of cointalk, but wouldn't most of the information be outdated by now?
Depends on what information you are talking about. Yeah, prices/values may, stress may, be outdated. But that is about it. As a general rule information regarding mintage numbers, varieties, types, errors, scarcity, history, etc etc etc - all of that remains the same. And how do you define the "older days" ? Was it a year ago, 2 years ago, 4, 8, 10 ? Where do you draw the line ? The forum itself is only 12 years old. And that compared to coins that are 50, 100, 500, 2000 years old - is nothing. The point is this, it's going to be a pretty unusual question that has not already been asked and answered a dozen, maybe even a hundred times. So when people take the time to search things out, they usually find the answers they are looking for. But when they don't, when they have a variation of the original question, an entirely new question on the same subject, or even a comment that adds to the discussion, there is certainly nothing wrong with them adding it to an old thread. Sometimes history needs to be revived in order to further education and information. It also helps to organize information in a single location - 1 thread - instead of having it scattered about in a dozen threads. As I said above - "the answers lie waiting in the echoes of time". So that is where you search for the answers
Ethan, NTC has been around since early 2001. It was connected with a Florida coin dealership called Rare Island Coins. They are now located in New York. But it did expand into a TPG and not just a basement slabber because they did accept outside submissions. They have had four different generations of slabs. The most recent being introduced May 1, 2013. I think yours is NTC 3. Not being PCGS or NGC they are typically dismissed out of hand.