CC minted Lincoln coin

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  1. mint

    mint Junior Member

    I was in Carson City last week. Stopped by the CC Mint. Bought this Lincoln tribute set. Has the four 2009 cents and a tribute coin minted in CC with CC mint mark with Lincoln and reverse is the great seal of Nevada. Tribute coin is minted with obverse or reverse upside down, however you want to look at it. Isn't that against coinage protoacal??? ...c-ya
     

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  3. bqcoins

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  4. panda

    panda Junior Member

    i would love to have something like that. very nice!
     
  5. silvermonger

    silvermonger Member

    Its not a coin, its a Medallion (:cool:

    Very nice, Id love to have that set too.
     
  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Nice set, but it brings up a question. We all know about the fuss with the Mint claiming it owns the phrase " America the Beautiful" and prohibits it use on slabs. So since this was done ( according to the inscription) not endorsed by the United States Mint or the U.S. Treasury, will the mint claim that the CC in the font and usage as an indicator of Carson City is a violation of their ownership? Interesting.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Well if he got it at the CC Mint in Nevada...wouldn't it be authorized? I wouldn't think the Carson City Mint would sell something in violation of laws.

    Aside from that, this is a neat medal, I like it ;)
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    But it isn't the CC mint anymore , it is Nevada State Museum now.
     
  9. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    So there is still a chance that these sets could be in violation of regulations by the United States Mint? That is a bit whacky, one would think they would get all their paperwork and find out if it is actually legal to do before making something like this
    Could these be the 33' St Gaudens all over again? :D lol
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Actually I think all is OK, except the use of the "CC"
     
  11. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Well that was what I was referring too.
    What would the United States Mint do about this if this wasn't okay to do?
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    They would most likely make them change from the "CC" to "CARSON CITY", which should be different enough. Of course maybe they did obtain permission.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    As someone already indicated, this is a medal, not a coin. Medals are generally produced in "medal turn", and coins are generally produced in "coin turn". (NOTE: This is a U.S. protocol and some countries do not follow it.) In medal turn, if you hold it in the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions between your thumb and forefinger, when you rotate it 180 degrees east-to-west, or vice versa, the reverse will be upright. For coin turn, you would hold it at the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock positions and rotate it north-to-south.

    Chris
     
  14. usc96

    usc96 Junior Member

    Maybe I'm just missing it, but I don't see the words "America the Beautiful" on that packaging???? :confused:
     
  15. mint

    mint Junior Member

    Wow, this is great info for me. Now I understand the 'coin turn' and 'medal turn'. Thanks for that. As far as the 'America the Beautiful', I got the package back out and I do not see those words anywhere on the medallion, on the packaging, or in the info that came with it.
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I am sorry not to reference my comment.
    http://coinsblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/america-beautiful-trademark-owned-by-us.html

    I was saying that the U.S. Mint refused the use of the words "America the Beautiful" on TPG slabs as the Mint claims it is theirs by trademark. Now I really feel that the phrase has been used so much through time, that it is public domain, but not to the government it seems.

    No that phrase is not on this package, but I could see the U.S.Mint/Treasury Dept, feeling that the "CC" on the medal looks to be a similar font to the "CC" used on US coins by the real Carson City mint and object to their usage as they did for "America the Beautiful". I feel they have been "heavy handed" once, so why not twice. Sorry about assuming everyone was aware of the previous event.

    Jim

     
  17. illini420

    illini420 1909 Collector

    Never seen this one before, very cool and thanks for sharing :)
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sorry, but the U.S. government has no proprietary right to "CC". Chris Columbus was around hundreds of years before this country even existed.

    Chris

    :hatch:
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I agree with that, BUT do a google of "America the Beautiful" and see others who think they have a right to use that specific phrase. From what I can gather, the Treasury dept feels they have the right to that phrase as it applies to coins. "CC" used on a medal such as this, enclosed with authentic mint products ( the Lincoln cents) could be claimed as a trademark by the Mint as long as their America the Beautiful claim stands. Didn't mean to railroad the thread, I'll stop my part of this.
    Jim
     
  20. mint

    mint Junior Member

    Got it. That makes cents to me. Kinda hope they do, maybe this will be of value some day. ...c-ya
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The use of "America the Beautiful" may depend on whether or not the Mint or the Treasury have actually applied for a Trademark of the phrase as they did for "50 State Quarter Program". As far as I know they have never applied for a Trademark on CC. Until the Sac dollar came out in 2000 the government had never bothered to copyright or Trademark the designs or the language used in the sale of their products. As far as I know the Sac dollar is still the only coin design that the government actually has a copyright on.
     
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