Did I get ripped off?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Cinderella Man, Jun 27, 2010.

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  2. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    AT thumbs down, sorry. But I would take full advantage of the return policy
     
  4. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    See what it looks like in hand before you decide. It may be that the photograph is juiced. But if it really looks like that.....I'd send it back.
     
  5. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Sorry to tell, but that coin is artificially toned. Even if that coin were MS-63, that $42 you just paid, plus the $2.50 shipping, is way out of range. Redbook puts MS-63 on that at $30, drop 20% for more accurate FMV brings it down to $24, I'd say value is $18-$22, for a MS-63 VDB 09 Lincoln.

    The coin in the ad, AU at best. Value, around $12.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I agree photo don't really show all.as for toned AT or NT it looks like Dutchman has answer that.
     
  7. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Cinderella Man and the Hot Pink Pennies. Sounds like the name of a punk rock band.
    Yes, you got taken...
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    It does look AT. I think you paid to much.
    As for "Did I get ripped off?" I say NO. It's an auction that you could see clearly. You overpaid but unless you get a coin that is different then the on shown you did it to yourself, sorry to say. As we all have from time to time. And by asking that question here I'm thinking you knew you did it too...just return it if you don't like it in hand and btw...



    What is a "Minimum of ticky tackies" lol
     
  10. I was horribly intoxicated when making the decision to bid on this item. I will look at it in hand and if I like what I see then I will probably hold onto it just because I'm working three jobs.
     
  11. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    lol been there ;)
    You dont have to justify to us though. I've paid more then I should for items before because I wanted them. That's for sure.
     
  12. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Oh Yea, nippin on a bottle of "Impaired Judgement" huh. lol, same here, been there done that. I went to an auction with a couple nips in me and bought a 1991 dime for 3 times the value. Like the old saying goes, don't grocery shop when your hungry...
     
  13. That's a pretty good saying I've serious never heard of it haha. I wanted this coin for some reason and I really didn't care that it was AT...I will still make my decision on keeping it once I receive it.
     
  14. richarrb

    richarrb Junior Member

    Even though its AT, it's still a pretty coin. Maybe, get impaired again and look at it and see if it's something you still like if not send him back
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Two things, copper that is still reddish is notoriously hard to photograph well, so I would look at it in hand first. Second, I have seen some wierd toning from sitting in those old penny boards over the years. A lot of them had paper ill used for coins, so even if it does look strange I would not be sure someone did it intentionally. I have an iridescent toned 31s that I would have sworn was artificial if I have not personally taken it out of a 1950's era penny board.

    EDIT: Look at the photos of the coin. See how the obverse is the colored side, and the reverse is uniform? This is indicative of it being put into a board and only the obverse being exposed. This is the first thing to look for if you think it might be "board toned" as opposed to artificially toned.
     
  16. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Okay, new rule of online purchasing for you:
    :computer: ABSOLUTELY NO INTERNET WHILE INTOXICATED. :computer:
     
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    As long as you woke up in the right bed, it's okay!

    Chris
     
  18. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Rule of thumb: If you have to ask the question, the answer is almost certainly "BAD DEAL".
    Same basic rule - "AT"!
     
  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I am just wondering how anyone can be sure it is artificial toning from a single photograph, especially when the reverse does not appear toned? Would not artificial toning affect both sides? Why would someone go through the effort to only tone one side artificially? Surely that would be more suspicious?

    I am simply curious about how everyone can be so certain. I have only been around coins for 30 years, so maybe I am simply too new.
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Nobody can be 100% sure that the coin is artificially toned. However, those colors are not consistent with what is typically found on a NT copper coin. Furthermore, I see toning on both sides, but it is more prominent on the obverse.

    Typically the debate over NT vs AT is important with relation to the value of the coin. In this case, I think it matters very little because that coin is an abomination. No serious collector of Lincoln Cents would want that thing in their collection. My initial reaction to that coin was.

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
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