Scared about this 1911-D Indian Head Eagle

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by gruenburger, Jun 26, 2010.

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Authentic?

  1. Geniune

    4 vote(s)
    30.8%
  2. Fake

    9 vote(s)
    69.2%
  1. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

    My family has had this coin in their possession for about 50 years. I am very very concerned that this coin is not authentic. Look at the mintmark. It is very different than other 1911-Ds. It looks a little too high on the coin.

    Take a look and let me know what you think. I am so bummed right now.



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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Got a shot of the obverse?
     
  4. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

  5. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

    sorry for the bad pictures too. no excuses haha
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm no expert. I blew your picture up on my computer and I'm not seeing anything that would indicate that the coin is not genuine, but like I said, I'm no expert. The placement of the mint mark is something that others more knowledgeable than me can comment on. Hopefully, one more storied in this series will happen along....:smile
     
  7. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

    im freaking out, man. this coin is really important to me. :(
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Patience. The guys that know will offer opinions.
     
  9. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    Send it into NGC to have it graded and authenticated and have no worries.
     
  10. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

  11. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    looks good to me.
     
  12. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Alrighty, I see nothing on this coin that screams fake.
    I think the coin is an authentic 1911, but I'm thinking the "D" was put on there. The 1911-D is more desirable than the 1911-P

    The placement is completely wrong, and the size is wrong too, I just wouldn't count out the coin being real.

    Can you do me a favor and weigh the coin?
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Really can't tell with any certainty from the photos. I think you should send it to a TPG for authentication.
     
  14. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

    ok ill get this to a coin shop for appraisal on monday (hopefully tomorrow if anything is open). i am not worried that the whole coin is counterfeit, but I AM worried that its not a 1911-D. A 1911 and 1911-D is a big big big difference....
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's definitely not a genuine '11-D. Now whether that D has been added to a genuine coin or if the coin is an outright fake, I don't know. But it isn't an '11-D.
     
  16. usc96

    usc96 Junior Member

    Don't have a D in my set to compare it to (from looking at my $5 and $2.5 coins I see the mark is over to the left), but it appears the D was much more rare than the P. Try looking at the mint mart from an angle with a loop to see if it was added after the fact? Maybe it was glued on?

    1911-D TEN DOLLARS OR EAGLE
    PCGS No: 8869

    Mintage:
    Circulation strikes: 30,100
    Proofs: 0
    Designer: Augustus Saint-Gaudens
    Diameter: ±26.8 millimeters
    Metal content:
    Gold - 90%
    Other - 10%
    Weight: ±258 grains (±16.7 grams)
    Edge: Raised stars
    Mintmark: "D" (for Denver) left of the arrowheads on the reverse

    1911 TEN DOLLARS OR EAGLE
    PCGS Nos: 8868, 8893

    Mintage:
    Circulation strikes: 505,500
    Proofs: 95
    Designer: Augustus Saint-Gaudens
    Diameter: ±26.8 millimeters
    Metal content:
    Gold - 90%
    Other - 10%
    Weight: ±258 grains (±16.7 grams)
    Edge: Raised stars
    Mintmark: None (for Philadelphia) left of the arrowheads on the reverse
     
  17. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter


    From these 2 pictures alone I'm pretty confident that the coin is not a genuine mint product. The irregular rims at about 12 o'clock are not a good sign. The weakness shown on IGWT is also an indication that the coin is counterfeit. The general porosity of the coin is also another red flag. Of course this is just judging from images on a screen and it could be different in hand but from what I'm seeing it does not look genuine. I would recommend sending it in to the grading companies for the final verdict.
     
  18. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I kind of had the same feeling. The coin has that porous/bumpy surface. To me, that is a tell tale sign of a casting. I could be wrong, but this coin sure worries me.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Oddly enough, the 1911-D eagle is known for that. So that is a sign of it being genuine usually. But that mint mark is a clincher.
     
  20. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    It isn't a genuine 1911-D...
    But could there still be a possibility it might be a genuine 1911?
     
  21. gruenburger

    gruenburger Junior Member

    aaah the joys of coin collecting! One moment you have a $25,000 dollar coin, and the next you have nothing.

    :)
     
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