Type II Franklin Halves

Yep Ken, just got tired of being on the losing end of the stick. I have always believed that you need to be happy in what you collect no matter what the value of the coin is and for many, many years I was. But you hit the nail on the head when you said I was re-inventing myself, because that is what I am doing. And I am having fun doing it and I am doing it on my terms which is best. :hail:

 

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I thought CONECA had a very complete listing of doubled dies on the net. I can't find it at the moment.

I found one reference to the 1959 doubled die being used with two obverses.

http://franklinlover.yolasite.com/doubled-dies.php

There are no details about the obverse dies. When the reverse die was removed for the scond buffing, it would be expected to be paired with a different obverse die when returned to service.

 

I think all, well most of us Numismatists go thru a life cycle of collecting.
It seems

1. we start with pocket change
2. then move to filling books and sets of current years
3. move to older years sets or high grade sets.

From there we move to a more specialized area usually as we have our feet wet. Everything from currency to EAC to Errors to type coins ect...

I myself am trying to find a specific area to focus as I can/am all over the board.

 

Will do, thank you.

 

I am moving in that same direction. I find that the hunt for a variety is much more fun than accumulating a complete set of coins or the highest graded coins for example. The 1959 DDR has piqued my interested for sure. I visited a new B&M dealer yesterday, and he tried to convince me to buy only key date coins as an investment. I told him that my investments are not in coins and that this is mainly a hobby for me. I am a firm believer that people need to do what makes them happy. TC

 

Anyone wanting to know about Type II Franklin's would do well to read my article. It has everything you need to know, and then some, about them: http://www.cointalk.com/t72184/

PS. Anyone with an extra 1959 DDR please PM me.

 

Here is a mystery that I don't have an answer for.
Why was 1959 the last year for business strike II's?
Business strike type B quarters were made in 1956 thru 1964.
Why not more dates for the halves?

 

Because the reverse was changed for 1960. A new master die.

 

The proofs and business strikes were still as different as before. They still would have had proof dies that could have been diverted to business strike production.

 

This may be too simplistic of a reason, but perhaps the 1959 DDR caused someone in charge to nix the practice for 1960. TC

 

<<This may be too simplistic of a reason, but perhaps the 1959 DDR caused someone in charge to nix the practice for 1960. TC
>>

Could be, but why not nix the type B quarters at the same time? Type B had their own mix up in 1952 when several class III doubled dies ended up in Denver production and Phildelphia proofs.

 

Note to self, pick up a cherry pickers guide.

I liked how Jaceravone is keeping the hobby fresh for himself.

 

The timing does not match. Type B reverse quarters appeared from 1956-1964 (P mint only), and I am not aware of any doubled dies specifically on the Type B reverse quarters during that time period. All the doubled dies I have seen on Washington quarters between 1956-64 were on the Type A reverse. However, we do know of the 1959 Franklin DDR and then no more in 1960. My guess is that someone just made the decision to nix it. TC

 

I'm not familiar with the Washington quarter and its hub/design changes. But someone previously mentioned in this thread that the Franklin master was changed in 1960. The entire coin was re-engraved, details changed, and strengthed, etc. I'm guessing that the mixup did not occur any more because of this.

 

<<I'm not familiar with the Washington quarter and its hub/design changes. But someone previously mentioned in this thread that the Franklin master was changed in 1960. The entire coin was re-engraved, details changed, and strengthed, etc. I'm guessing that the mixup did not occur any more because of this. >>

Which hub was changed? THe circualtion one or the proof?

 

The Proof hub was changed in 1956 (and hence the Type I and Type II eagles). The circulation master was changed in 1960 (and retained the Type I eagle).

 

This has been a refreshing blast from the past. Some threads are just too good not to be bumped. Enjoy.

 

You devil. Where ya been hidin'?

How's Mom?

 

Does anyone know why the TPGs do not attribute the Type II Franklins? TC

 

I suspect some will say that it is not in the CPG. Others may feel that they are just not well enough known or documented.

I suspect that if you submitted one to ANACS with the presently availabe documentation, that it might be possible to have it graded as the variety.