Does this seem real?

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One thing I don't get is why they say RARE....I know that the 1956 FE cent is RARE but I have seen many 1957's....

Speedy

 

What did you link to? That is an 1857 Flying Eagle.

 

Thats what I mean...sorry about the 9....1857's

Speedy

 

Well, if it is real it is increadably under priced for this kind of detail.

Ruben

 

How can it be under priced? It's... an auction. One that isn't... done yet.

 

Well, the detail is such that it is hard to figure it it real. Otherwise this looks to me to be a $2,000 coin?

 

really, you think so? That looks like Proof details to my untrained eyes.

Ruben

 

Where do you see wear on this coin?

 

Previous Prices from Heritage Auctions
Lot Date Grade Service Realized
Sale 384, Lot 759 Saturday, September 24, 2005 65 NGC $2,300.00
Sale 382, Lot 5134 Saturday, July 30, 2005 65 NGC $2,415.00
Sale 384, Lot 760 Saturday, September 24, 2005 65 PCGS $2,990.00
Sale 382, Lot 5135 Saturday, July 30, 2005 65 NGC $2,530.00
Sale 382, Lot 5137 Saturday, July 30, 2005 65 PCGS $2,990.00

 

It's pretty rare in this condition, but not very rare on an absolute basis... 17.5 million of them were minted in 1857. Figure some were lost or destroyed, there should still be millions surviving somewhere.

Of course rarity isn't everything... the 1950D Jefferson nickel is rarer than this, but since it isn't as old and so many people saved it, it's much easier to find in high condition than this.

 

I can't see any in the picture. If it's real, it's been kept well for the last 148 years. It's lost its luster with age but I don't see any marks or wear on it. I'm no grading expert but would say you're looking at 65 at least. People more expert than me may know better I'm sure, lol, but this looks like an excellent coin to me.

 

It looks like wear on the eagles head and wings...see where some is more shiny then the rest of the coin...I think that would be a bit of wear..

Speedy

 

I wish I could say I see it. I'm going to keep bidding on it. Its so pronounced in its cameo that i thought it might be fake.

Ruben

 

Uh....CAMEO is for proof coins...I'm sure this isn't a proof
The seller doesn't have a return so if you win...you have the coin...
Why does a seller put this....

That kicks me out ot lots of auctions...they should give some idea on what they think it is...it could be cleaned and the seller can see that but the photo not show it...

Speedy

 

What are you going to do? Every flying eagle I've brough has been cleans except one.

Does it looked cleaned to you? What do you call it if it is not called Camero. The individual feathers and detail in the strike seem to my eyes in this photo, unlike any other Flying Eagle I've seen. Each feather is clearly lit up.

Ruben

 

Wait around untill I find one that is worth the money and my time in buying it...waiting is always worth it...if you run out there and buy you will be sorry.

I think the photo is darker than it should be...to tell you would need lighter and larger photos

Well you sure don't call it CAMEO...you would call it a strong strike...CAMEO is for Proof coins or SMS coins...there isn't a thing CAMEO about this coin.

Speedy

 

Let me see if i can lighten the photo

Ruben

Cameo \Cam"e*o\ (k[a^]m"[-e]*[-o]), n.; pl. Cameos
(k[a^]m"[-e]*[=o]z). [It. cammeo; akin to F. cam['e]e,
cama["i]eu, Sp. camafeo, LL. camaeus, camahutus; of unknown
origin.]
A carving in relief, esp. one on a small scale used as a
jewel for personal adornment, or like.
[1913 Webster +PJC]

Note: Most cameos are carved in a material which has layers
of different colors, such stones as the onyx and
sardonyx, and various kinds of shells, being used. The
classical cameos made in Italy are carved on a seashell
(see cameo conch, below), having an olive figure
carved from the inner layer of the shell in relief on
the white background of the outer layer of the shell.
[1913 Webster]

Cameo conch (Zool.), a large, marine, univalve shell, esp.
Cassis cameo, Cassis rua, and allied species, used for
cutting cameos. See Quern conch.
[1913 Webster]

 

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