Anyone Have any info on this?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mdunn66, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. wunderer

    wunderer tink

    Another reason to think it may be old. The glue in the dovetails began to fail and someone added screws to draw them back together.
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    But a great many fewer would fit in the box, tending to even out the weights.
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I seem to recall having seen it, or one like it, as well. I believe it was finally determined to be a fake.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I honestly think this thing screams 1950's-1960's... but that was just my original gut feeling.
     
  6. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    The dovetails look machine to me and the printing on it and colors are to bright even if it had been holding GSA's in an old building. How did you get it... might give us some help on figuring it out...
     
  7. conpewter

    conpewter Junior Member

    Looks like box joints to me, not dovetails.
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah, they do look like box joints, but authentic or not, I think it is fairly old because of the way the wood in the joints has shrunken to some extent. Also, on the one that was sold at auction, it looks like the "Property of......" and the date was burned into the wood. There is one small chip of the wood on the side broken away, and you can still see the imprint on the exposed surface. The lettering on your box looks like it was painted.

    Even still, it is a cool piece that I wouldn't mind having.

    Chris
     
  9. wunderer

    wunderer tink

    you are correct, box or finger joints. If they are machine cut, they are cut to mimic hand cut (and poorly at that). That would make it a reproduction. DNA to match other originals and carbon dating to match the wood to the era might tell the story. :kewl:
     
  10. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    My opinion is this box is just a reproduction and nothing more.
    I just have the feeling that boxes back then wouldn't have the vibrant colors like it does on the top, also don't think the wood is that old. That is just me though, it still could be real.
     
  11. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Nice trunk & welcome
     
  12. Byron L Reed

    Byron L Reed Junior Member

    Was that a Type I crate or a Type II crate?
     
  13. mdunn66

    mdunn66 Junior Member

    heres a email I got from Nevada Museum,Im now thinking its gonna turn out as a reproduction.


    CC Mint Morgan Dollar Crates

    Friday, June 18, 2010 3:52 PM

    From:
    "Robert Nylen" <RNylen@nevadaculture.org>

    To:
    mdunn66

    Dear Mike,

    In the last eight years since 2002, I have received several inquiries on the CC Morgan crates from different people from around the country. They all ask about the same questions that you are interested in. And my answer is unfortunately I not sure if they are authentic or not. I tend to believe they are reproductions. But let me say also I could be wrong. So I can’t really help you but I would recommend you contact the Historian at the US Treasury Office in Washington, D.C. is Maria Goodwin at [Maria.Goodwin@usmint.treas.gov]. The other place to check is with the Smithsonian. I don’t have a contact but if you check their website I am sure there is a contact address for questions.

    Please let me know what you find out.

    Thank you,

    Regards,
    Bob Nylen
    Curator of History
    Nevada State Museum
     
  14. mdunn66

    mdunn66 Junior Member

    to that I have no answer
     
  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

  16. mdunn66

    mdunn66 Junior Member

    done! Thanks
     
  17. Texas John

    Texas John Collector of oddments

    The fonts don't look 19th Century and the artwork is too extravagant for a utilitarian object like a crate. Plus, wouldn't they have used barrels rather than crates? Barrels, being closer to spherical, are more efficient, and don't have pressure points that are libel to fail like rectangular crates do.
     
  18. wunderer

    wunderer tink

    I sent Wells Fargo an email asking if they ever carried the coin shipments from the Denver mint. If they did, what type of container was used. They have an extensive museum of their history. Maybe they can shead some light on this.
     
  19. mdunn66

    mdunn66 Junior Member

    Thanks...lol this is one of the hardest items I ever researched.Kinda fun in a way.
     
  20. mdunn66

    mdunn66 Junior Member

    Took it to the local pawn shop today to see what he knew about it.He said the were made around 1970s as commemorative crates.They also made many other crates related to many different subjects.
     
  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I don't have a hard time believing that. It has more of a retro look than an old look to me.
     
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