another 05-proof penny error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by miterman2003, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Maybe I'm seeing things but this 5 in the 2005 looks like the start of an extra 5. The area around the 2nd 5 looks raised a bit.Is this another Strike thru? Thanks
     

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  3. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    A stike throu is a coin that has been struck throu something...like grease...or metal...or hair....
    This looks like machine doubling...but Mike will be able to know better.

    Speedy
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I might believe machine doubling on the 2 - but I've never seen machine doubling have full and complete separation like that 5 has. I think I'd be sending that coin in !
     
  5. julzboi661

    julzboi661 New Member

    proofs are struck multiple times. possibly the coin slipped and it restruck off on the 5?
     
  6. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    I think I might send it in, I just wanted some feedback, Thanks all
     
  7. Morgan

    Morgan New Member

    Might? Might? I would definately send it in. The split serrifs on the 5 scream valued error. I can't see how any serifs could be more split. Yes the 2 and both the 0's seem to be machine doubled but that could be the photography. The 5 is definately not machine doubled or photographed wrong.

    Nice find and congradulations on once again proving the mint is not as perfect as they try to claim.
     
  8. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    When I send it in, what should I put down as to the variety?
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been a variety name assigned yet - as far as I know this would be a first. I'd just say doubled die and see what they tell you.
     
  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The extra 5 appears raised and nicely separated from the normal 5. It does not clearly correspond to any form of doubling I'm familiar with. The separation is too great for the recent doubled dies that have been reported. Some 1943 cents have peculiar doubling like this that has been attributed to both machine doubling and die deterioration doubling. It could conceivably be a counterclash error. This occurs when a die strikes an already struck piece of metal. But the appearance is not consistent with a counterclash and there is no erratic die damage surrounding it. There is a 2000-P Sac dollar with an atypical counterclash error with no surrounding die damage, but it's much fainter than this. I suspect any grading service you send it to will simply guess as to what it is and send it back with whatever diagnosis they pulled out of thin air. My suggestion is to send it to Coin World's Collector's Clearinghouse. Eric Von Klinger would undoubtedly be interested and would send good photos to all the variety and error experts for their opinion. You may eventually have to "shop it around" to an assortment of experts. A coin like this must be studied closely under high magnification. A juicy mystery!
     
  11. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Thanks guys for your insight you have all been helpfull.
     
  12. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Hi all
    got ahold of coin world and they what to see the coin in question, will tell you the results when they let me know. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction you guys.
     
  13. miterman2003

    miterman2003 New Member

    Hi and happy new year to you all.
    I got my coin back from coin world in which Mr. von klinger said under a microscope he could see extreme stress or abrasion lines but did not know which. He also said abrasion and die fatigue are most common on the 55 poorman's double die. He also stated that either factor is unusal for a Proof die and he plans on running a photo to see if he can get other reports.
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    That is a very interesting find and congratulations! I am sure that spark a lot of talk and debate amongst the Coin Error Experts! With the amount of doubling on the "5" and apparent doubling on the "2" and both "0's", I would look for a Double Eyelid on Lincoln and see if there is any doubling whatsoever on at least "WE TRUST". Strike up another error which the Mints say cannot happen!!!!!!!! Keep'em coming Mint boys and girls!!!!!


    Frank
     
  15. julzboi661

    julzboi661 New Member

    That is a one of a kind error. Good eye, and i think i'd be sending that to ANACS ;)
     
  16. smithrow1

    smithrow1 New Member

    Very nice coin I would send it in.
     
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