Neon Toned LMC from a 64 Flat Pack

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Kevo, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member

    Here is one that i picked up from an older gentleman recently for below grey sheet bid. 1964 proof set with envelope and coa. I already own a pile of these sets but the LMC really caught my eye. Hard to get a good shot through the original cello packaging, but you can get the idea. Electric blue and purple. Yummy cent that would normally make me say AT, but in hand there is no question that it is NT.


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  3. Cool find! I would keep the proof set intact to prove that it is NT. TC
     
  4. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    I plan on doing just that. Too bad some of the silver does not have the same hues. The Jefferson does have that champagne color that they all seem to take on in old mint cello.
     
  5. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    NICE! I love finding toners in these old proof sets. I have some Lincolns and Jeffersons that are outstanding.
     
  6. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    Still, there would be those that would say you can gas a coin inside a cello pack with a syringe and a hypodermic needle.
     
  7. Ltrain

    Ltrain New Member

    Not without breaking the airtight seal.
     
  8. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    Hypothetically speaking there are many ways to skin a cat. If it was a 58 D business strike Franklin sure there is what you could call motive. But a proof LMC? Not like it could bring more than a few bucks tops.
    Plus it is sitting in a complete set with otherwise blast white silver proofs. Not very likely.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If it was airtight the coin would not have toned to begin with.
     
  10. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    If you leave it in the packaging, without sealing the whole package in another package, it will continue to tone to the point where it's ugly.
     
  11. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    I have silver mint set cellos that have staples in them that are un toned.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    And that proves what? They will tone if exposed to certain contamination and moist air acts as a catalyst. If sealed, it does not tone. It only exposed to dry clean air, it does not tone. If the air is not dry and/or clean...........
     
  13. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Cellophane, even the newer cross linked kind, is NOT air tight, nor water molecules tight. It is often used in osmosis experiment, water purification , etc. because of this. Water and air molecules can and will diffuse through the cellophane depending on the gradient. Move a mint sealed set from a moist Flagstaff ( 7000') to Phoenix ( dry, 1100') and air molecules will move into the package at the same time water molecules are moving out.
    Move them back the next day, and if same conditions , the reverse will occur. IMO.
     
  14. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    What i am saying is that they are not "air tight" to begin with. And neither are the slabs that tpg's use. Toning is created by certain environmental conditions, regardless of the holder that houses the coin. If you recall a while back, there were some people from certain message boards who had figured out how to tone coins that were slabbed without removing the coin from its holder. Air alone does nothing, you also need moisture, temperature, and time.
     
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