Well this morning I recieved my 1st ever Morgan Fake, thought it would be a good idea to have one in the collection :mouth: I think that at one time it has been plated but not absolutly sure. So just thought I would share it with you all :bow: De Orc :smile
From a collector in Germany neither of us are realy sure about the age but we dont think it was made yesterday so to speak LOL De Orc :hail:
I wish I had bought the 2 fake Morgans I had a chance too...they were made out of lead and where $5 each....but I passed! Speedy
Those are some really nice counterfeits. Not easy to find nowadays. I go to lots of coin shows and seldom see counterfeits lately. I'm starting to think there may be a law against them or something. I've got one half dollar in lead but can't find anything else. Good finds.
The Secret Service can confiscate counterfeit coins if they want to. Most people who have big collections of contemporary counterfeits do not publicize it. I have thought it would be fun to collect contemporary counterfeits, but they are out of my price range. Charlie
You can't always tell right away, but sometimes you can. Put a fake down on a table next to genuine coin - 99 out of a hundred people can pick out the fake from the two. But have the same group of people look at the same two coins 1 at a time without being able to compare them to one another - you'll be lucky to get 50 - 50. Detecting fakes is like anything else, it requires experience and knowledge.
I could very easily be wrong, but it looks to me like one of those pot metal cast coins coming out of Asia right now. I am not sure it is vintage, or "contemporary". It seesm to me that most (not all) contemporary fakes meant to circulate were minted, not cast. Of course, many cast ones did exist, but those are largely lead. The ones from Asia are a weird metal - maybe tin. Not lead, but not silver either. Also, the rare date makes me suspiciuous. The chnaces of a contemporary counterfeiter using a rare date by coincidence are small. Still nice to have a fake, though, in my opinion.
The 21-P that I posted weighs and measures the same as a real Morgan. Picked it up at an antique mall for $10.
It's not all that unusual. Many fakes were struck with the same quality silver used for the genuine coins. Some of them were even made with silver of higher quality than in the genuine coins. Ironically, that is one of the ways to tell they are fake.
Thanks I learned something new. After that was posted I thought it was familar so I looked in my grandfathers coin box he gave me and it was one of them. Only 2 Morgans in there.
no, but 1895 is exceptionally valuable. If the date on the coin in the op is 1896, then I mis-read the date. Oops
It dont feel or look cast I think at some stage in its life someone decided to clean it only to have a bit of a suprise LOL weight wise it is about 3g short of the real thing so if you imagine it plated it would have been fairly close to the real thing. I can imagine someone passing it in a Bar or Saloon with poor lighting at night when it was busy with no problems :thumb: De Orc
What do ya'll think of this coin....I found it and it seems to look funny...the hair looks too well defined....I thought maybe a fake but am not sure..... Speedy