Morgan Fake

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by De Orc, Nov 30, 2005.

  1. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well this morning I recieved my 1st ever Morgan Fake, thought it would be a good idea to have one in the collection :mouth: I think that at one time it has been plated but not absolutly sure.
    So just thought I would share it with you all :bow:

    De Orc :smile
     
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  3. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Don't Drink The Kool-Aid

    Where did you get that thing? From eBay?
     
  4. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    At least it's a fake of a good date. It would be annoying if it was a 1921. lol
     
  5. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    From a collector in Germany neither of us are realy sure about the age but we dont think it was made yesterday so to speak LOL

    De Orc :hail:
     
  6. nesvt

    nesvt Coin Hoarder

    Hey! What do mean by that? ;)
    Here's my 1921 Morgan fake.
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  7. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    That is a nice one De Orc. Now you need a micro O counterfeit to go with it. ;)

    Charlie
     
  8. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I wish I had bought the 2 fake Morgans I had a chance too...they were made out of lead and where $5 each....but I passed!

    Speedy
     
  9. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Those are some really nice counterfeits. Not easy to find nowadays. I go to lots of coin shows and seldom see counterfeits lately. I'm starting to think there may be a law against them or something. I've got one half dollar in lead but can't find anything else. Good finds.
     
  10. Charlie32

    Charlie32 Coin Collector

    The Secret Service can confiscate counterfeit coins if they want to. Most people who have big collections of contemporary counterfeits do not publicize it.
    I have thought it would be fun to collect contemporary counterfeits, but they are out of my price range. ;)

    Charlie
     
  11. julzboi661

    julzboi661 New Member

    how can you tell right away that they're fakes?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    You can't always tell right away, but sometimes you can.

    Put a fake down on a table next to genuine coin - 99 out of a hundred people can pick out the fake from the two.

    But have the same group of people look at the same two coins 1 at a time without being able to compare them to one another - you'll be lucky to get 50 - 50.

    Detecting fakes is like anything else, it requires experience and knowledge.
     
  13. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I could very easily be wrong, but it looks to me like one of those pot metal cast coins coming out of Asia right now. I am not sure it is vintage, or "contemporary".

    It seesm to me that most (not all) contemporary fakes meant to circulate were minted, not cast. Of course, many cast ones did exist, but those are largely lead. The ones from Asia are a weird metal - maybe tin. Not lead, but not silver either.

    Also, the rare date makes me suspiciuous. The chnaces of a contemporary counterfeiter using a rare date by coincidence are small.

    Still nice to have a fake, though, in my opinion.
     
  14. nesvt

    nesvt Coin Hoarder

    The 21-P that I posted weighs and measures the same as a real Morgan. Picked it up at an antique mall for $10.
     
  15. AvgCollector

    AvgCollector New Member

    Is 1896 rare?
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Rare - no. Scarce - yes.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It's not all that unusual. Many fakes were struck with the same quality silver used for the genuine coins. Some of them were even made with silver of higher quality than in the genuine coins. Ironically, that is one of the ways to tell they are fake.
     
  18. AvgCollector

    AvgCollector New Member

    Thanks I learned something new. After that was posted I thought it was familar so I looked in my grandfathers coin box he gave me and it was one of them. Only 2 Morgans in there.
     
  19. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    no, but 1895 is exceptionally valuable. If the date on the coin in the op is 1896, then I mis-read the date. Oops
     
  20. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    It dont feel or look cast I think at some stage in its life someone decided to clean it only to have a bit of a suprise LOL weight wise it is about 3g short of the real thing so if you imagine it plated it would have been fairly close to the real thing. I can imagine someone passing it in a Bar or Saloon with poor lighting at night when it was busy with no problems :thumb:

    De Orc :cool:
     
  21. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    What do ya'll think of this coin....I found it and it seems to look funny...the hair looks too well defined....I thought maybe a fake but am not sure.....

    Speedy
     
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