1732 eight reales coin

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Dragoon, Nov 27, 2005.

  1. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

    Hi,

    I konw someone who got a mexican 1732 eight reales silver coin. There is the two
    hercules collumns on it and I would like to know how much it could worth. I think it is this one but i'm not sure about it.

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I had a link to prices of Milled Columnarios (sp) coinage. The 1732 (if I recall correctly) is the key date of the series and unfortunately they're LOTS of counterfeit ones floating around.

    A couple of things to look for. Check the edges for scalloping, with the direction changing 1/2 way around the coin. The other is the weight. It cannot be over 27.1 grams as the actual weight must be 27.0642. I wish I could recall the link as it was chock full of valuable information.

    Bone
     
  4. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

    I dont think it's a fake, my friend brigned it to an expert and he tried to buy it for 1000 $.
     
  5. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Looks fake....too much detail---but I don't collect this kind of coin so don't take my word for it...
    GDJMSP will be by soon....he will be able to help more than I can.

    Speedy
     
  6. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

    The photos are not mine, I found them on the net, I dont have a camera. If it's a thrue one, how much could it worth.



    P.S I'm sorry, my english is really bad.
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Well we need photo of THE coin you have before we can help...
    Get a friend of yours to help...or even scan it with a scaner on a computer...but we need some kind of photo of your coin.

    Speedy
     
  8. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member


    Well darn, a picture is a must with this coin. One of the coin it'self.

    Bone
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are two varieties commonly known for the 1732-F 8 reales struck in Mexico City. The more common of the two, an R3, only has 11- 25 pieces known to exist. For the other, an R5, there is only 1-3. And these are for those coins struck with the M with small o over it mint mark. There also exist another mint mark - the MX series. These coins are even more rare - I have never even seen a picture of one.

    That being said - if you have such a coin the odds of it being genuine are slim. So, please post a pic if possible - and weigh the coin on a scale that measures 1/100 of a gram.

    If the coin proves to be genuine, don't go thinking you can retire. The R3 coin would likely only sell for a few hundred dollars. The R5 - perhaps $1000, maybe $1500. And that's if they are in very good condition.
     
  10. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

    Well, I got more informations... I learned that it's the fift of a royal serie of eight silver coins. All the other ones are in museum and that's the last one missing. I dont have any photo yet but It's exactly like the previous ones except that ther is a "5" in the right circle. Is that a MX serie or a R5 ? I dont think it's common...


    P.S I'm sorry for my bad english...
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm not sure what you mean by the "right circle". Do you mean the small O above the M ? Either way, I have never heard of a 5 in a circle on these coins. I'd have to see a picture.

    In the pictures you posted, do you see the large M with the o on top of the M - there is one on each side of the coin. That is the mint mark. In the MX series there is no o on top of the M. There is only an M and an X - just like this - MX, and that is the mint mark.

    Both of the coins you pictured are the R3 coins.
     
  12. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

    I'm really sorry for the photos, I haven't seen the guy for a while...


    The 5 is under the crown, between the pillars.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No problem, get the pics when you can. I'm not going anywhere ;)

    So the 5 is stamped into one of the globes - that is something I have never heard of. It sounds like something that happened after the coin left the mint - in other words, someone else did it besides the mint.

    There were presentation sets struck, but they were just like the ordinary coins only nicer. They had no special markings of any kind, like the 5 you mention, that I am aware of.
     
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