1970 S small date ?

Some of you know that I have been searching through my rolls of 1970 S cents looking for a verifible small date to use for a comparison coin. I thought of buying one on eBay, just so I would have a known one. I came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/2-1970-s-small-...em&pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cade960be

I don't think either coin is a small date ? Because I have several of these and the information I am reading says a crease line at the juncture of the 7 is the key indicator and is present only in the Large date.

What do you guys think ?

 

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Pictures are a little small, but both appear to be large dates to me. See http://lincolncentresource.com/smalldates/1970Ssmalldate.html

 

Me too. But If I can get 8 bucks for a pair, I am selling starting tomorrow !

 

I'd call them large dates also.

 

Did not even look at the price. OMG! Maybe I could buy a couple rolls and sel them like that.

 

Both are large dates. He didn't say there were. Just left it up to the untrained to jump of a questionable pair of coins. Here is what to watch for on the Large and small date 1970-S Coins.

 

Last count, I could lay my hands on about 60 rolls of such BU, all LD.

Still have most of the bag left.l
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Whoa ! I saw it first ! You guys gonna flood the market ? LOL

 

That might be easier to see than the crease in the 7 ? I will look again in the morning. Note the mark behind the S in the small date in the pic, RPM ?

 

There is your sample listing. Play dumb and go for it.

 

How's this sound.
I got these funny looking pennies with weird mint marks, They are 1970 and I got them from an old man who only collected error coins. I am not sure what they are, but if you know, PLEASE tell me because I have a couple more. Thanks.

NO RETURNS ACCEPTED !

:goofer:

 

The one in the op has a proven track record. Why mess with success?

 

Large Date

From the picture I'd bet $100 it's not a small date.
besides looking at the date, all the small dates I've owned they have a certain "look" with a darker deeper copper appearance.

 

True, but I wonder if the bidders are relatives ?

 

that picture that was posted is the best way to tell the difference at least in my opinion..

 

The coin on the left is definitely a Large Date, but the one on the right doesn't look like either to me. The top of the 7 looks like the Large Date (top of 7 below the imaginary line from the top of the 9 to the top of the 0) and the bottom of the 7 looks like the Small Date (bottom of 7 about even with a line from the bottom of the 1 to the bottom of the 0) to me. It could be damage or a poor photograph, but I never had much problem making that distinction on typical Large and Small dates.

Now I'm not certain about how many MM locations there are on the 70-s because I had not yet become aware of the variation of MM locations at the time. The two used in the Small Date/Large Date comparisons have very distinctive and different MM locations.

It came out when I was 12 and had the sharp eyes and obsession required to look through as many as I could get my hands on. Of course, I was looking mostly at Denver coins in my area.

 

The best way that I have found to distinguish between the large and small date is to look at the word “Liberty”. The small date always has a mushy liberty. The L is usually strongly struck and then gets steadily worse all the way to the “Y”. You can spot them almost immediately this way. I would always confirm with the date but if Liberty is mushy you can bet you probably have a small date.

 

Quite So. I glanced over the scan I did of a roll of mine. Using the 9 as a reference, I have 4-5 possibilities. Now I have something to look at. I have spent a lot of time so far on it already and was about to give it up.

 

I am not sure of how many different "S" mm punches were used, but in the bag I went through, there were the 2 that are in coop's photos above. The one in coop's large date photo and jhinton's 2 photos appears to be how the mm was designed. The one in coop's small date photo also occurs with large dates, and it at first looks like it might be a RPM, but after careful observation just seems to be a damaged punch. There is a 3rd one I noticed that was rather intermediate, which tended to validate the damaged punch idea in my opinion. Here is a 1970 S/S RPM #2, that was one of several found in the bag along with a rather rare ( and would be hard to find on a circulated 70 S) DDO. Thread http://www.cointalk.com/t89221/

 

Thanks for the pictures, I've been having a terrible time differentiating the large and small on the 70-S I have a roll or two of BU examples that I'll look through for them!