TRIVIA: Viva la Revolution!

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  1. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Viva Revolution!
    The Revolutionary Period that took place in Mexico during the years 1910 to 1917 produced many heroes including Villa, Carranza, Obregon, Calles, Juarez, Zapata, Cernceros, Contreras, and Dieguez. Throughout the Revolution there existed a need to mint coinage for the populace. This need was filled by the revolutionaries who, themselves, beginning in 1914, captured and appropriated mints throughout Mexico.

    May I direct your attention to most prolific mint of the Revolution? The year was 1915. The mint, also, produced the largest variety of coin composition including silver and gold. Because of the lack of precious metals in Mexico between 1914 and 1917, many mints only stocked Copper and Brass for coinage. The following photos are courtesy of shieldnickels.net:




    The Mint:

    The location of the mint is in the state of Oaxaca which lies in Southern Mexico. Benito Juarez helped set up a Provisional Government who, upon seizing control of the mint, issued coins bearing the date 1915. Oaxaca produced rectangular and round coins. The round coins feature Benito Juarez. Not all coins minted in Oaxaca will be seen in this article, but I found a good representative number to share with you.

    The first coins of 1915 are rectangular in shape, lack a portrait, and bear the denominations of Un Centavo (1) and Tres Centavo (3):

    1915 19mm Copper Un Centavo:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV1.html


    1915 24mm Copper Tres Centavos:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV3.html


    Moments after the rectangular coins were struck, round coins were produced:

    1915 18mm Copper 1 Centavo:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV5.html


    1915 18mm Brass 1 Centavo:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV6.html


    Round Tres (3) Centavos were struck with two different size "3"s and without or without the "TM" minter's initials:

    1915 20mm Copper Large 3, no TM:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV9.html\


    1915 20MM Copper Small 3, with TM:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV13.html


    5 Centavos coins were struck bearing Juarez' image with a long pointed truncation or a short round truncation. In all, 9 varieties exist including one with incused text. All measure 22mm and are Copper.

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV16.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV18.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV19.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV20.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV22.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV23.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV24.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV25.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV26.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV27.html


    Al 22mm 10 Centavos coins are Copper and varieties include small bust, large bust, small truncation, blunt truncation, pointed truncation, round truncation, open lapels, and closed lapels. Here's a few:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV30.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV32.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV34.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV36.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV37.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV38.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV39.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV41.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV43.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV45.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV49.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV50.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV51.html


    20 Centavos coins measured 19mm and 20mm, were struck in Copper as well as Silver, and have a few varieties including rwo which have a Liberty Cap counterstamp on their reverses:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV56.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV59.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV60.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV66.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV67.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV68.html


    1915 20 Centavos with Liberty Cap Counterstamp (2)

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV69.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV70.html


    All 50 Centavos coins are Silver and measure in at 22mm:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV77.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV78.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV80.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV81.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV82.html


    All Un (1) Peso coins measure 26mm and are Silver Here's a few varieties:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV85.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV86.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV88.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV89.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV92_5.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV93_5.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV96.html

    2 Peso coins were struck in Copper, Silver and Gold-Silver with measurments of 22mm, 30mm and 33mm. You will notice reverse varieties as well as obverse:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV99.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV101.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV102.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV106.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV107.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV109.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV110.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV113.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV115.html


    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV117.html


    5 Pesos Coin varieties unclude Silver (30mm), Copper (30mm), Copper (19mm), and Gold (19mm):

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV119.html

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV120.html

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV123.html

    10 Peso Coins were struck in Copper and Gold. Here's a photo of the Gold $10:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV124.html


    20 Pesos were struck only in Gold measuring 27mm (no photos found).

    Three varieties of Gold 60 Pesos were struck. As tough as the coins are to acquire, I managed to locate one photo. Hope you enjoy:

    1915 Oaxaca (1.3908 AGW) $50:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/revmex/Oaxaca/Oaxaca-LV130.html


    Thought you'd like to see some of the Mexican Revolutionary coinage and the varieties minted during those troubled times...

    Clinker
     
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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Interesting!

    Are the coins with very little detail on the obverse the result of a weak strike or worn?
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Thanks, Clinker! That was interesting.

    Chris
    Cape Coral
     
  5. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    To ikandiggit...

    Some are one or the other, but a few are both...Most photos of Mexican Revolutionary coins are worse than these. That's one reason I chose shieldnickles' website for photos...

    Clinker
     
  6. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    Hi neighbor...

    Back in the '80s I was a member of both the Fort Myers and Cape Coral Coin Clubs. Set up at coin shows at Coralwood Mall a few times before the facelift...

    Clinker
     
  7. howards

    howards Shield Nickel Nut

    I am not comfortable with your wholesale linking to various pages within my www.shieldnickels.net website. Here is the page on which I detail how I prefer links to be made: http://www.shieldnickels.net/1883_2/linkingTo.html

    You should have linked to the main page for Revolutionary Mexican coinage only. There is a good reason for that - all of your links will break if I edit the website. Please edit your post to conform to this guideline.

    Furthermore, I find it annoying that you engaged in such wholesale linking without a) asking me what I thought of it or b) crediting me by name. It would have been easy to contact me since my email address is on the bottom of every page you linked to.

    Howard Spindel
    www.shieldnickels.net
     
  8. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I have some currency from Oaxaca.
    THanks for the info Clinker!
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

  10. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    In my opinion there is an important difference between hotlinking (which Clinker does not do) and posting a link to a publicly available page. For example, opening and reading this very topic does not automatically load anything from your site. Nor does he in any way convey the impression that the images and the other content are his work. He finds/collects interesting info and presents them in an informative way.

    To put it a little differently, I would probably not visit a website about Mexican Revolutionary coinage, since my collection is focused on other periods and countries. But I read and enjoy most of his "Trivia" posts (check out how many he has already written), and thus may well have a look at the pieces he presents.

    You may have excellent reasons for not wanting anybody to post such direct links to your site - but then it would be useful in my opinion to build in some measures which make it obvious that you do not want it. I am not an HTML or scripting expert, but apart from using dynamic links, you could disable context menus for example. This page http://www.muntslag.eu/ (about Belgian coins) shows quite nicely what I mean.

    Hmm. On that page you write "Please link only to the main page (http://www.shieldnickels.net/1883_2/1883_2.html) - not to subsidiary pages." Fine, but where on that main page, or on your "front page", would I find a link to your Mexican Rev. coins?

    I know that deep links can sometimes be annoying. But Clinker simply makes these posts as a hobby, without any commercial interest. You just gotta like them - just as he found your pages to be very interesting. ;)

    Christian
     
  11. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    To Duke Kanvanaugh...

    Thank you Duke. For more Revoluntionary coin info and photos visit www.shieldnickles.com and thanks for the paper currency photo link...

    Clinker
     
  12. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Your welcome Clinker!!!
    BTW do you know Gary Lewis past ANA president? I like him and I think he's from your area.
     
  13. howards

    howards Shield Nickel Nut

  14. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

  15. Clinker

    Clinker Coin Collector

    To howards....


    I personally want to thank you for posting this link. To everyone else reading this, howards' website has the finest photos of Revolutionary Mexican coins. And, not only can you review those minted at Oxaca, you can view coins struck at most of the Provisional Mints including some not listed in the Krause World Coins 1901-2000.

    Clinker
     
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